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[Willie Pep 229]

To add to Queen assessment . . .

Johnny Evers was part of a legendary double-play battery.

It came from the last line from a poem named The Sad Lexicon

". . . from Evers, to Tinker, to Chance."

The phrase is legendary in baseball history....

[Willie Pep 229]

According to The Argus (Melbourne) on August 15, 1910, there was a scheduled contest in San Francisco between “A. Kaufmann and Sam. Langford” that was subsequently cancelled. The cancellation was reportedly because Langford demanded $7,500 to enter the ring, a fee deemed excessive at the...

[Willie Pep 229]

DAZN

Deontay Wilder vs Tyrrell Herndon - Wilder goes the distance with dangerous former world champion.

So if I buy into all the anti-lineal crap above, I not only have to accept Tyrrell Herndon as a "champion" but as a dangerous one as well.

A UBO Champion...

[Willie Pep 229]

Yeah, that was definitely the end but I think the Tarver loss is more in keeping with this thread.

How well did he recover after Tarver? No doubt some of the sheen was gone but do you think it slowed down his subsequent performances or did he rise past it?

Was his first KO...

[Willie Pep 229]

Luis Alberto Gonzalez (6-0-0)

6' 10 1/2"

I saw him on the Camacho-Boza Edwards undercard. His opponent was 0-8 and refused to fight. Fight last 40 or so seconds.

A silly freak show to add to a terrible night of prize fighting.

He never...

[Willie Pep 229]

According to a New York Times article dated January 23rd 1913, Mcketrick claimed he had a 30K guarantee from a French sporting club. For a fight that June.

The article also claims Johnson accepted the deal (by written letter to McKetrick) and claimed he would finish closing the deal when...

[Willie Pep 229]

Benny Leonard 0-1-0
Henry Armstrong 0-1-0

Joking aside --> Joe Louis is that guy....

[Willie Pep 229]

Livingstone Bramble.

Rosario L KO 2/15

I don't know if Bramble suffered a confidence collaspe or maybe was just exposed for being a very strong kid with limited skills.

He was one fight away from a mega fight with Camacho. Life changing money.

He never...

[Willie Pep 229]

What about McClarin, Ross, Griffith, and Micky Walker?

What are you doing with this post, naming great WWs?

If you believe this, then pick out a fighter and say why, (other than he was a coward,) he would have ducked him.

I think a Benetiz-Money fight would have...

[Willie Pep 229]

On the side.

Nah! Battling Jim shouldn't have been given the decision against Johnson.

He didn't deserve the title shot.
They fought only 10 rounds.

A half ready Johnson appeared at the fight. Yet Battling Jim (by most accounts) never really had Johnson at...

[Willie Pep 229]

RE Bold: I have been around BS far a while now and I can assure you, "It's not you."

Ghost, whether popular or not, has held a consistent opinion regardless of who the other poster is....

[Willie Pep 229]

I think Duran may be suffering from CTE. He has had a few blow-ups that were kept quiet as they didn't go too far. But I don't think he walked away unhurt.

I knew someone who was extended family to him (a former student so no details) and 'they' said that sometimes he can become scary...

[Willie Pep 229]

If I was a judge and I had a pug in front of me accused of signing with multiple managers at the same time, I would be looking suspiciously at the managers not the boxer....

[Willie Pep 229]

The only fighter I would invite to have diner with my family would be Livingstone Bramble. In the greatest of irony he is the one who turned out to be the most normal, a family man, a humble man, who spent most of his money on eye operations for his family and in-laws.

No drugs, no violence,...

[Willie Pep 229]

OK, so Jeffries was a racist or a puppet of segregation, whichever floats your boat, but this has to be the 12th time we have had to suffer this thread in the two years I have been on this site.

Is this to be a bi-monthly tradition where we drag out the same arguments and the same sources...

[Willie Pep 229]

When the press names you "The Human Windmill" you got to figure somethings up.

I still wonder if Greb was in fact 'feather fisted' and made up for it with wreckless abandoned.

In giving up only seven pounds to Tommy Gibbons (a 1922 UD win for Greb) one report read...

[Willie Pep 229]

The bold above was probably a polite way to keep the segregationists out of the conversation.

Just maybe he could then get himself a second tier 'white boy' and make some decent gate money.

In the color-line era a little humbleness by "Negros" went at long way to...

[Willie Pep 229]

What I have been able to find out.

1. HBO and Maywesther Jr. were are odds, not over money per fight, but with Mayweather's demand for a six fight contract.

2. HBO was also at odds with Golden Boy (and Haymon) over other non-Mayweather fights HBO was expected to produce....

[Willie Pep 229]

Every HW Champion from Sullivan to Tunney was expected to make such a statement and each did. The statement was a part of systemic racism.

To pick out one champion and make it look like it was the individual's decision alone is, in my opinion, disingenuous....

[Willie Pep 229]

I can't speak to the referee.

The nudge you refer to is what I am saying should not win you a round.

But mine is a very different type of opinion that has been dead since 1930. The fans and the gamblers today want a winner and so we score close rounds even if all we can see...