Anyone starting to give Crawford a decent chance at Canelo?

[elfag]

disagree... in fact, when TC gets hit, he likes to come right back right away and try to get his lick back! see the gamboa fight. he cant take flush shot like in the gamboa fight against 168 canelo.

TC doesnt have the legs to move around and survive. he will be even slower at 168. he doesnt have great movements so he will need to fight canelo.

This is a very good point. Crawford can be hit and he has been hit.

kavaliauskas was scammed out of a knockdown by the ref. Crawford was wobbled by him too. Canelo definitely has the power to seriously hurt or KO crawford.


An inside close fight benefits Canelo a lot.

Bivol didnt win just on size he won on excellent distance control with fast legs and a huge reach.


Canelo has a good chin too, crawford will have to win a decision boxing on the outside and controlling distance.

[SouthpawRight]

This is a very good point. Crawford can be hit and he has been hit.

kavaliauskas was scammed out of a knockdown by the ref. Crawford was wobbled by him too. Canelo definitely has the power to seriously hurt or KO crawford.


An inside close fight benefits Canelo a lot.

Bivol didnt win just on size he won on excellent distance control with fast legs and a huge reach.


Canelo has a good chin too, crawford will have to win a decision boxing on the outside and controlling distance.

inside good thing TBud a wrestler who knows clinch game

We’ll find out if 168 TBud feet are anywhere near as fast as Bivol

Bivol has the quickest in these big man classes

[KingTito]

It's tough to say. His inactivity worries me a bit, but I give him a real shot. Both are a bit beyond their prime,

[IceTrayDaGang]

inside good thing TBud a wrestler who knows clinch game

We’ll find out if 168 TBud feet are anywhere near as fast as Bivol

Bivol has the quickest in these big man classes

bruh, even 147 TC's feet is slower than bivol, so imagine 168 TC... TC is never quick on his feet. he fights flat footed. I never see TC bouncing on his feet or anything close to it. he will need to fight a perfect fight to win.

[elfag]

Nope, Crawford's going to do exactly what Mayweather, Lara and the new guy Scull did, dance on the outside but he won't get the W and I'll tell you why:

The difference here is that Canelo is the money man (face of boxing) with all these endorsements, investments and he still has a few years left in the game compared to Crawford. So the boxing powers that be are not going to let Canelo lose, they have too much money on the line with him right now.

As for the "fight," it's going to be a boring fight similar to the Erislandy Lara match or when Crawford fought Viktor Pistol. Then we're going to hear how Crawford took him to school, outboxed Canelo but was robbed on the scorecards or possibly a draw etc etc.

Crawford can't trade with Canelo because he still is bigger and stronger than him. All it takes is one, right punch from Canelo and Crawford will be put to sleep.

I dont see how you can lump in Scull with mayweather or even Lara. Scull did *** all. Boxing is hit and dont get hit. not literally run all night to not get hit.

I agree crawford needs to fight on the outside and outbox him. His feet speed and outside movement at 38 isnt nearly as good as 36 year old mayweather's was though which means he has his work cut out for him

[elfag]

inside good thing TBud a wrestler who knows clinch game

We’ll find out if 168 TBud feet are anywhere near as fast as Bivol

Bivol has the quickest in these big man classes

That would help him.

Canelo is going to be stronger and his shorter arms means he can get off faster in the clinch.


I think bud has better stamina than canelo i dont really see him get tired

[elfag]

(big piece, I know.)
I rewatched a large part of Canelo – Scull. Yes, I took one for the team..
Now I was particularly looking at Canelo and he was even more terrible than I thought.
Besides that he now has developed some kind of weird looking grandpa walk in the ring, I noticed a few other things as well.
If Crawford/Bomac analyze Canelo they will see the same:

- Canelo now basically has only 2 positions in the ring where he likes throwing punches, because he’s become that slow and his stamina is getting worse and worse.
He hardly throws any punches when in the center of the ring anymore. Scull was standing in front of him a few times and Canelo did nothing. He just waited until he could follow Scull in a slow walking pace unto the ropes. Only then he’ll starts looking to throw.
The other position is when he can put his head against his opponents head, so he can throw hooks and uppercuts (he tried this with Bivol and got embarrased) He also does this in training.
So the current Canelo needs his opponent to either stand still against the ropes or stand still in front of him.

- His defense isn’t elite anymore.

- The few times Scull did throw, he tried to do what Bivol did.
Canelo doesn’t bring his hands back to his face when throwing, so Scull tried to get him in between his punches.
If Canelo throws a double jab you know a straight right is coming. Scull landed flush one time after countering Canelo after his double jab.

- Other that his timing is getting quite poor now, he telegraphs a lot.
Canelo always or for a long time has the habit of taking a huuuge step with the left foot, both for his shovel hooks and his straight. He becomes a sitting duck if he misses. Crawford will probably bait him with this, step back, make him miss and then counter.

Where Crawford can tactically hurt Canelo is also something that Bivol said, after sitting ringside for Canelo – Scull: fighters let Canelo do what he wants to do. If he wants to fight he can fight, if he wants to rest, he can rest.
Bivol didn’t allow this and forced Canelo to fight when he wanted to rest.
If Crawford can mess with Canelo’s rhythm, he will start to struggle with his stamina big time very early I believe.

So, the biggest question marks for me are how/whether Crawford (can) handle the punches if he gets hit and how Crawford’s own stamina will hold up in this weight class.
If both hold up I believe he has big chance of pulling it off.

See this is all very interesting. Right when I am convincing myself crawford has no chance you give a very good case for why he has a great chance. Especially with canelo having to get set, telegraphing and not throwing unless hes set in one of two positions. This is where the ring IQ and reach matters and where Crawford could actually pull it off. I dont know that he has to have amazing feet he just has to be faster than canelo to control distance.

[SouthpawRight]

bruh, even 147 TC's feet is slower than bivol, so imagine 168 TC... TC is never quick on his feet. he fights flat footed. I never see TC bouncing on his feet or anything close to it. he will need to fight a perfect fight to win.

I believe this is enough movement, defensive discipline, and spoiling to 7-5 this version of Alvarez

In September we'll see two greats sharing the ring again. Last seen with Bivol-Artur 2

maybe backfires on TBud he can't take the power and gets stopped early like Andrade-Benavidez

[DeeMoney]

bruh, even 147 TC's feet is slower than bivol, so imagine 168 TC... TC is never quick on his feet. he fights flat footed. I never see TC bouncing on his feet or anything close to it. he will need to fight a perfect fight to win.

Rewatch the Postol fight, he was pretty bouncy there. Not writing that compares anything to Canelo, just that Bud has shown he can move

[SouthpawRight]

Rewatch the Postol fight, he was pretty bouncy there. Not writing that compares anything to Canelo, just that Bud has shown he can move

most versatile boxer in the sport today

the versatility is huge part of his case for being p4p king