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Originally posted by elfag View PostA few years ago the idea of the fight seemed absurd.
Now its happening. We know crawford wont LOOK small next to canelo, heck hes taller and hes 180s out of camp.
But Charlo looked the same size or larger and he fought SCARED once he felt canelo's power.
Crawford nearly lost to Madrimov but Madrimov's style is nothing like Canelos, hes very mobile very fast feet.
Canelo has lead feet, he hasnt stopped anyone in his last 7 fights. Hes really slowing down, these are all guys he would have stopped a few years ago.
The difference here is that Canelo is the money man (face of boxing) with all these endorsements, investments and he still has a few years left in the game compared to Crawford. So the boxing powers that be are not going to let Canelo lose, they have too much money on the line with him right now.
As for the "fight," it's going to be a boring fight similar to the Erislandy Lara match or when Crawford fought Viktor Pistol. Then we're going to hear how Crawford took him to school, outboxed Canelo but was robbed on the scorecards or possibly a draw etc etc.
Crawford can't trade with Canelo because he still is bigger and stronger than him. All it takes is one, right punch from Canelo and Crawford will be put to sleep.SouthpawRight likes this.
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(big piece, I know.)
I rewatched a large part of Canelo – Scull. Yes, I took one for the team..
Now I was particularly looking at Canelo and he was even more terrible than I thought.
Besides that he now has developed some kind of weird looking grandpa walk in the ring, I noticed a few other things as well.
If Crawford/Bomac analyze Canelo they will see the same:
- Canelo now basically has only 2 positions in the ring where he likes throwing punches, because he’s become that slow and his stamina is getting worse and worse.
He hardly throws any punches when in the center of the ring anymore. Scull was standing in front of him a few times and Canelo did nothing. He just waited until he could follow Scull in a slow walking pace unto the ropes. Only then he’ll starts looking to throw.
The other position is when he can put his head against his opponents head, so he can throw hooks and uppercuts (he tried this with Bivol and got embarrased) He also does this in training.
So the current Canelo needs his opponent to either stand still against the ropes or stand still in front of him.
- His defense isn’t elite anymore.
- The few times Scull did throw, he tried to do what Bivol did.
Canelo doesn’t bring his hands back to his face when throwing, so Scull tried to get him in between his punches.
If Canelo throws a double jab you know a straight right is coming. Scull landed flush one time after countering Canelo after his double jab.
- Other that his timing is getting quite poor now, he telegraphs a lot.
Canelo always or for a long time has the habit of taking a huuuge step with the left foot, both for his shovel hooks and his straight. He becomes a sitting duck if he misses. Crawford will probably bait him with this, step back, make him miss and then counter.
Where Crawford can tactically hurt Canelo is also something that Bivol said, after sitting ringside for Canelo – Scull: fighters let Canelo do what he wants to do. If he wants to fight he can fight, if he wants to rest, he can rest.
Bivol didn’t allow this and forced Canelo to fight when he wanted to rest.
If Crawford can mess with Canelo’s rhythm, he will start to struggle with his stamina big time very early I believe.
So, the biggest question marks for me are how/whether Crawford (can) handle the punches if he gets hit and how Crawford’s own stamina will hold up in this weight class.
If both hold up I believe he has big chance of pulling it off.
Last edited by PerfectJab; 05-06-2025, 01:58 PM.MikeyG
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Originally posted by champion4ever View PostIt showsed that he is both vulnerable and beatable. Just Judging by his previous performance. He obviously underestimated Scull.
Likewise, he may very well do the same exact thing against Crawford. However, unlike William Scull.
Bud will make Canelo pay for the mistakes he makes inside of that boxing ring
because I want TBud-Alvarez to be a competitive fight
Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
but TC has done exactly that when he gets hit! he comes right back and start brawling and get his lick back. the gamboa fight was an example of this. TC was fortunate that gamboa is a small guy. TC cant afford to do this against 168 canelo.
I think he knows he could get away with brawling against the much smaller Gamboa
and that defensive discipline will be key against Buff Guy Nelo
Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
Nope, Crawford's going to do exactly what Mayweather, Lara and the new guy Scull did, dance on the outside but he won't get the W and I'll tell you why:
The difference here is that Canelo is the money man (face of boxing) with all these endorsements, investments and he still has a few years left in the game compared to Crawford. So the boxing powers that be are not going to let Canelo lose, they have too much money on the line with him right now.
As for the "fight," it's going to be a boring fight similar to the Erislandy Lara match or when Crawford fought Viktor Pistol. Then we're going to hear how Crawford took him to school, outboxed Canelo but was robbed on the scorecards or possibly a draw etc etc.
Crawford can't trade with Canelo because he still is bigger and stronger than him. All it takes is one, right punch from Canelo and Crawford will be put to sleep.
as long as it's a highly competitive fight a rematch would be huge especially if TBud won
Bivol the random Rossiyan-Asian was able to get the decision, so it's possible
Originally posted by PerfectJab View Post(big piece, I know.)
I rewatched a large part of Canelo – Scull. Yes, I took one for the team..
Now I was particularly looking at Canelo and he was even more terrible than I thought.
Besides that he now has developed some kind of weird looking grandpa walk in the ring, I noticed a few other things as well.
If Crawford/Bomac analyze Canelo they will see the same:
- Canelo now basically has only 2 positions in the ring where he likes throwing punches, because he’s become that slow and his stamina is getting worse and worse.
He hardly throws any punches when in the center of the ring anymore. Scull was standing in front of him a few times and Canelo did nothing. He just waited until he could follow Scull in a slow walking pace unto the ropes. Only then he’ll starts looking to throw.
The other position is when he can put his head against his opponents head, so he can throw hooks and uppercuts (he tried this with Bivol and got embarrased) He also does this in training.
So the current Canelo needs his opponent to either stand still against the ropes or stand still in front of him.
- His defense isn’t elite anymore.
- The few times Scull did throw, he tried to do what Bivol did.
Canelo doesn’t bring his hands back to his face when throwing, so Scull tried to get him in between his punches.
If Canelo throws a double jab you know a straight right is coming. Scull landed flush one time after countering Canelo after his double jab.
- Other that his timing is getting quite poor now, he telegraphs a lot.
Canelo always or for a long time has the habit of taking a huuuge step with the left foot, both for his shovel hooks and his straight. He becomes a sitting duck if he misses. Crawford will probably bait him with this, step back, make him miss and then counter.
Where Crawford can tactically hurt Canelo is also something that Bivol said, after sitting ringside for Canelo – Scull: fighters let Canelo do what he wants to do. If he wants to fight he can fight, if he wants to rest, he can rest.
Bivol didn’t allow this and forced Canelo to fight when he wanted to rest.
If Crawford can mess with Canelo’s rhythm, he will start to struggle with his stamina big time very early I believe.
So, the biggest question marks for me are how/whether Crawford (can) handle the punches if he gets hit and how Crawford’s own stamina will hold up in this weight class.
If both hold up I believe he has big chance of pulling it off.
TBud has always had stamina from what I seen. He turned it up in the championship rounds to make his case against Madrimov
Saul has always been Gasnelo as early as the Trout bout maybe even before it
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Originally posted by SouthpawRight View PostI hope this is what happened
because I want TBud-Alvarez to be a competitive fight
TBud a smart fighter
I think he knows he could get away with brawling against the much smaller Gamboa
and that defensive discipline will be key against Buff Guy Nelo
I don't believe the judges will favor Nelo as much as they used to. He has declined, has limited time, and only has two big fight opponents left TBud and Benavidez
as long as it's a highly competitive fight a rematch would be huge especially if TBud won
Bivol the random Rossiyan-Asian was able to get the decision, so it's possible
adding to the Alvarez icked off in training conspiracy theory let hope his lack of stamina against Scull was due to slacking roadwork
TBud has always had stamina from what I seen. He turned it up in the championship rounds to make his case against Madrimov
Saul has always been Gasnelo as early as the Trout bout maybe even before itLast edited by IceTrayDaGang; 05-06-2025, 03:50 PM.SouthpawRight likes this.
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If someone is winning a decision, it's gonna be Canelo. We already saw where the judges sway. No amount of ring generalship or pitty pat pat will earn you a round.
This is just mid hearns hagler with decision result
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Originally posted by RuleOfTheSpear View PostIf someone is winning a decision, it's gonna be Canelo. We already saw where the judges sway. No amount of ring generalship or pitty pat pat will earn you a round.
This is just mid hearns hagler with decision result
Originally posted by Mushashi View PostHis best chance is too adopt that Erislandy Lara blueprint. Might even switch to southpaw. Pot shot and flurry before Canelo can get his own back
But TB fights as a lefty 80% of the time anyways
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