Sports and the importance of size debate

[Dr. Z]

I don't know how to rate a resume? Lmao.....maybe not. But I'm a far cry better at than you who wants Louis to lose points for not fighting any eastern europeans and only 2 black defenses even he fought more highly rated contenders. That logic alone is enough for me to stop wasting my time with you. Every time I show you something or explain something to you, you push the goal posts back. It's become a never ending cycle with you.

You are the one pushing things back here and in the past. You don't like it when I ask you to defend or explain why you think this so, and cross reference your list to known 3rd party references! What was the result to the Byrd fight , please show us to for the 10th time. And while you are at it please explain to me why SRR, Greb, and Duran all quit in fights but only Vitali seems to be mentioned by you. Post your list of 21-30 fighters who in your opinion had a better resume here so we can read it.

[JAB5239]

You are the one pushing things back here and in the past. You don't like it when I ask you to defend or explain why you think this so, and cross reference your list to known 3rd party references! What was the result to the Byrd fight , please show us to for the 10th time. And while you are at it please explain to me why SRR, Greb, and Duran all quit in fights but only Vitali seems to be mentioned by you. Post your list of 21-30 fighters who in your opinion had a better resume here so we can read it.

You have serious issues. If we're talking about heavyweight rankings why would I need to talk about Robinson, Greb and Duran? Seems you're the only one pushing goal post when you feel the need to bring up lightweights, welterweight and Middleweights in a heavyweight conversation.

[Willie Pep 229]

[QUOTE=Ivich;n31771708]

Anytime anyone produces an article from a reliable and primary source that Carnera ever fought with the partisans , I'll believe it until then NOPE!
Carnera was used and abused I think it would be very unkind to blame him for allowing himself to be dressed in blackshirt uniform and be seen giving the ******* salute,the majority of Italians were certainly in favour of Mussolini early on as were the Germans with Hitler.
The fact that he was nominally a ******* would be in his favour as far as that POS McCarthy was concerned,I would imagine.
Factoid = Unverified and in many cases highly unlikely. My generous definition.

The real definition.

Factoid

False claim that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact or common knowledge

A factoid is either an invented or assumed statement presented as a fact, or a true but brief or trivial item of news or information. The term was coined in 1973 by American writer Norman Mailer to mean a piece of information that becomes accepted as a fact even though it is not actually true, or an invented fact believed to be true because it appears in print.

Thanks for the reply.

I know what a factoid is, even down to the whole Mailer thing . . . What I don't get is how Boxrec defines the word.

Boxrec places under the title factiod the following:

• Appeared in several movies: Carnera's IMDb

How the hell can that statement fit the defintion of "factoid" ? You and I both know that is a fact!

We both have seen the damn films.

Should I now question if Carnera had his kidney removed? -- Really should I, because Boxrec is calling that a factoid and then gives the dates of thr surgery. What the hell is that all about?

It seems to me Boxrec does not understand the definition of the word factoid.

So as it stands now Boxrec sees as much validity in Carnera being wounded fighting **** as they believe he acted in Hollywood films. That makes no sense.

The latter is a FACT, so should I take the former as fact too?

P.S. Other than Boxrec I can't find any evidence of Carnera fighting with the partisans.

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=Willie Pep 229;n31771883]

Thanks for the reply.

I know what a factoid is, even down to the whole Mailer thing . . . What I don't get is how Boxrec defines the word.

Boxrec places under the title factiod the following:

• Appeared in several movies: Carnera's IMDb

How the hell can that statement fit the defintion of "factoid" ? You and I both know that is a fact!

We both have seen the damn films.

Should I now question if Carnera had his kidney removed? -- Really should I, because Boxrec is calling that a factoid and then gives the dates of thr surgery. What the hell is that all about?

It seems to me Boxrec does not understand the definition of the word factoid.

So as it stands now Boxrec sees as much validity in Carnera being wounded fighting **** as they believe he acted in Hollywood films. That makes no sense.

The latter is a FACT, so should I take the former as fact too?

P.S. Other than Boxrec I can't find any evidence of Carnera fighting with the partisans.

Neither will you!

[QueensburyRules]

[QUOTE=Ivich;n31771708]

Anytime anyone produces an article from a reliable and primary source that Carnera ever fought with the partisans , I'll believe it until then NOPE!
Carnera was used and abused I think it would be very unkind to blame him for allowing himself to be dressed in blackshirt uniform and be seen giving the ******* salute,the majority of Italians were certainly in favour of Mussolini early on as were the Germans with Hitler.
The fact that he was nominally a ******* would be in his favour as far as that POS McCarthy was concerned,I would imagine.
Factoid = Unverified and in many cases highly unlikely. My generous definition.

The real definition.

Factoid

False claim that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact or common knowledge

A factoid is either an invented or assumed statement presented as a fact, or a true but brief or trivial item of news or information. The term was coined in 1973 by American writer Norman Mailer to mean a piece of information that becomes accepted as a fact even though it is not actually true, or an invented fact believed to be true because it appears in print.

- - Fact is you still manage to mangle the quote function daily making your reply illegible on top of your usual nonsensical nonesuch.

Case in Point~


Today, 10:22 AM
[QUOTE=Willie Pep 229;n31771557]
Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
Boxrec refers to the partisan/wounded/Cremona, Italy, story as a "factoid."

But it also refers to the removal of his kidney and his appearances in several Hollywood films as factoids as well, (when we know those things are facts?)

So in Boxrec's mind, what hell is a 'factoid'?

P.S. The fact that he received dual citizenship in 1953 at the height of the McCarthy Red Scare and Xenophobia, suggests to me that the United States didn't see much wrong in his Mussolini/*******/Black Shirt adventures.

I think those above who labeled him a stooge got it right.

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=QueensburyRules;n31772242][QUOTE=Ivich;n31771708]

- - Fact is you still manage to mangle the quote function daily making your reply illegible on top of your usual nonsensical nonesuch.

Case in Point~


Today, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
Boxrec refers to the partisan/wounded/Cremona, Italy, story as a "factoid."

But it also refers to the removal of his kidney and his appearances in several Hollywood films as factoids as well, (when we know those things are facts?)

So in Boxrec's mind, what hell is a 'factoid'?

P.S. The fact that he received dual citizenship in 1953 at the height of the McCarthy Red Scare and Xenophobia, suggests to me that the United States didn't see much wrong in his Mussolini/*******/Black Shirt adventures.

I think those above who labeled him a stooge got it right.

What time do you start drinking in the morning?