Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Suckmedry]

Look this fight confirmed what anyone who knows boxing always knew about Wlad.

Hes a good solid boxer with a good jab and right hand who does a few things very well, but overall he's a limited guy because he has no inside game and no real defence aside from leaning on guys.

[Suckmedry]

Fury moves well for a man his size and he has some underrated skills but he's no master boxer. Imagine what a prime Ali would have done to Wlad with his footwork and angles.

SITDOWN ELROY YOU NUTBAG!!!

[sunny31]

Rahman didin't look too bad to me..

Ironically Rahman was the same age as Wlad is now when he fought Povetkin and YOUNGER than Wlad is now when he fought him!

Yet Wladimir at age 40 has NO excuse to be shot at all but Rahman was way to past it to box at that age.

Face it idiot, if current fighters like Wlad and Povetkin are so inferior then a 90's HW like Rahman should be able to trounce them even at 40.

What you fail to realise is age is not the only factor when determining if a fighter is over the hill or shot. Wear and tear and punishment taken matters. You use age to benefit your argument even though what Wlad said in the in the build up to the fight was very apt "age is only a number". You have to assess Wlad by the way he moves, the coordination, technique, hand speed, it is all still there if not quite as quick as it was in his early 30's. Heavyweights don't age as fast as lower weight fighters, and even then you look at guys like Floyd Mayweather, Marquez, Pacquiao, Vitali, Larry Holmes, Bernard Hopkins, George Foreman, Archie Moore, all still good in their late 30's early 40's.

A safety first boxer like Wladimir who has not taken much punishment is going to last much longer than an aggressive come forward brawler who often become over the hill or shot between 28-35. You could tell that Rahman was pretty much shot when he fought Wladimir and none of his results leading up to that fight prove to the contrary. He was at the very least, well over the hill.

[sunny31]

Look this fight confirmed what anyone who knows boxing always knew about Wlad.

Hes a good solid boxer with a good jab and right hand who does a few things very well, but overall he's a limited guy because he has no inside game and no real defence aside from leaning on guys.

I think most sane people understand this. He has delicate whiskers and an engine which let him down early in his career and his whole style is based on the insecurities this has created. He has created a style to protect these weaknesses and to be fair to him he has done a tremendous job and achieved much more than anyone imagined after those early losses. But as you said he is very limited as a result, he will not change now.

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Fury is the best HW in the world. He has the best footwork, the best engine and the best skills.

All these idiots picking Wilder to knock him out are just butthurt yanks or Fury haters.

Fury isn't going anywhere people. He'll continue to make your favourite fighters look like journeymen.

[Fury4daWIN]

Rahman didin't look too bad to me..

Ironically Rahman was the same age as Wlad is now when he fought Povetkin and YOUNGER than Wlad is now when he fought him!

Yet Wladimir at age 40 has NO excuse to be shot at all but Rahman was way to past it to box at that age.

Face it idiot, if current fighters like Wlad and Povetkin are so inferior then a 90's HW like Rahman should be able to trounce them even at 40.

Here's Elroy in a nutshell.

Looks at the walking corpse that fought both Wlad and Povetkin. Thinks, "He doesn't look that bad to me! Screw the boos and the non-punching, that's a fighting man right there!"

Looks at Rahman's age and notices it's the same as Wlad's when he fought Povetkin. Aha! thinks he , I've got 'em now! Fighters can't possibly age at different rates can they? Hence by calling Rahamn shot this silly sausage Fury4daWIN is downplaying Fury's own win over Wlad!

Now, since Rahman must be prime when he fought Wlad (and Povetkin), that makes him as good as when he knocked out Lennox, which puts him miles above the likes of Chisora who's Fury's second best win!!!

Ahahahohoho, what a smart and witty fellow I am!

[billeau2]

Here's Elroy in a nutshell.

Looks at the walking corpse that fought both Wlad and Povetkin. Thinks, "He doesn't look that bad to me! Screw the boos and the non-punching, that's a fighting man right there!"

Looks at Rahman's age and notices it's the same as Wlad's when he fought Povetkin. Aha! thinks he , I've got 'em now! Fighters can't possibly age at different rates can they? Hence by calling Rahamn shot this silly sausage Fury4daWIN is downplaying Fury's own win over Wlad!

Now, since Rahman must be prime when he fought Wlad (and Povetkin), that makes him as good as when he knocked out Lennox, which puts him miles above the likes of Chisora who's Fury's second best win!!!

Ahahahohoho, what a smart and witty fellow I am!

Elroid is let off the hook constantly though. To date the guy has never backed up one if his opinions with any solid information.

[RED REP]

Fury is the best HW in the world. He has the best footwork, the best engine and the best skills.

All these idiots picking Wilder to knock him out are just butthurt yanks or Fury haters.

Fury isn't going anywhere people. He'll continue to make your favourite fighters look like journeymen.

Wilder will look like an fool and get knocked out in the last round.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Good to know you're still with us man.

Stay strong.

#PrayForScott

Thanks man.

I'm still here I just tire of this new direction the thread has taken ie ripping down the career of Wlad, undermining the victory of Fury so, to think some of the genuine Fury fans are actually going along with this notion is ludicrous.

I could sit here and underplay his victory claiming Father Time caught up with Wlad and a younger version would have trounced Fury but it undermines a Wladimir victory in a rematch. How does Fury then appear as a win for Klitschko should he overcome him in a rematch. If folk want to call that my agenda fine, I'm not gonna lie. But some of the dudes on here claiming they have no agenda when it is clear they aren't even Fury fans I find laughable.

I heard some of the posters in here claiming Wlad looked poor against Jennings last out and that he was in decline and also now it is a great victory for Fury... You guys really need to make your mind, is or was Wlad shot or not ?

I was actually looking forward to the debate after the Fury fight but the way it has shaped up I genuinely dislike coming in here for the narrow minded simplistic views of a few who now have a foothold in this thread.

Haters gonna hate.

What possible connection to any agenda is there in making points that show up on any tape of the fact related to how fury won that fight. Why does there have to be an agenda?

Don't choose to be ridiculous. I would be obliged to apologize profusely if you could show me one concrete point that is not an opinion that elroy made, much less schooled me in.

If you look at the fight you can see all the things mentioned in my post, no matter one's agenda.

Who do you think wins between Wilder and Fury should they fight next ?

[Jewish-Reptile]

Elroid is let off the hook constantly though. To date the guy has never backed up one if his opinions with any solid information.

He breaks down and challenges everything you post, your response is generally personal attacks, then you try to claim you're not offended when clearly your behaviour suggests otherwise.