Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[RED REP]

25 minutes onwards is a riot. John fury is an animal.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Apparently they gave Fury the wrong gloves in the end anyway.

[LacedUp]

I still don't believe I actually lost. Man, I'm suffering.

— Klitschko (@Klitschko)

[Jewish-Reptile]

More drivel from this uneducated fool.

I find it easier to read over these guys rather than reply and air my opinion. You do yourself a disservice and extend him a courtesy replying, here we have one of the many muppets who have now found their way into this thread 12-18 months after its inception.

Tyson Fury 6'9"
John Fury 6'3"
Peter Fury 6'2"
Shaney Fury 6'6"
Young Fury 6'3"
Hughie Fury 6'6"
Joseph Fury 6'4"
Thomas Fury (teenager) 6'2"

Who needs chromosomes when you're a giant gypsy family from the north of England!

Poor Thomas, 6'2" imagine the indignity of being thought of as the family member with the smallest pecker and its still 12" !

[Jewish-Reptile]

I still don't believe I actually lost. Man, I'm suffering.

— Klitschko (@Klitschko)

If you read between the lines I think he is saying he still finds it hard to believe he lost, he's become so accustomed to winning. Simply he's had it too easy by one definition, I'm not saying it was easy but his training, conditioning, fine tuning, meticulous preparation amongst other angles I haven't mentioned and have merely forgot haven't been enough.

He is not saying he refuses to accept it, just mourning his loss. The way some will interpret this it really has to be stated.

I think I can understand what he is feeling, Saturday it just seemed unreal, hard to comprehend, I know I'll be referred to to as a fan boy for saying this but I kinda understand the 'Klittard'and 'worst fans in boxing' etc. Following Wlad is I guess like supporting Pete Sampras and Carl Lewis, you honestly believe after a while they are invincible, not quite in the literal sense of the word but you just sort of get swept away by the fact they are so damned good and what feels a sense they are clearly head and shoulders better than the nearest challenger.

Saturday was a rude awakening, a nice one really now I can stand back and take stock of it all. Maybe certain Klitschko fans needed humbling, though I still see the odd one or two refusing to acknowledge or return to reality, I refuse whole heartedly to be that person. You need a sense of perspective with something like this, I changed my sig for that reason alone, I was moping around that night, the early hours of the morning into the morning itself and just thought to myself he simply lost to the better man, clearly he did.

You can't go through a fight not taking chances until the 12th knowing you gotta force the issue as early as the 6th maybe early, I honestly believe Wlad waited for him to tire or make a mistake, he made so few the jab to the body alone extended him to a distance he was unable to utilise his own jab, let alone a striking powerful hook when it was clear the jab was of insignicance and needed to be factored out except for distance could he get his nose in front with the score cards.

Thoroughly disappointed still, that likely won't ever leave me, I'd say I'm still finding the Kessler defeat to Froch hard to digest but accepted it moved on. At least Wlad has a chance to set things right, come back stronger and prove he is a true champion that did not get by this long having been bigger than all previous opposition. This was the one fight he could really make a statement and he blew it by being far too indecisive and refusing to change in the ring until the 12th. He is too stubborn for his own good, and clearly believed he could be patient.

Thank The Lord the rematch clause is still there or I think I would be absolutely gutted/wounded he hadn't the ability to immediately set things right from my standpoint. I'm not saying things aren't right as we have a deserving champion, just from a Klitschko fan perspective.

Wlad really messed this one up, I was always begrudged Vitali never got the chance to silence critics with the Valuev fight, defeating a bigger man considered a live dog, well this was Wlad's and he blew it, BIG time. I think these are the points that hurt most.

[LacedUp]

If you read between the lines I think he is saying he still finds it hard to believe he lost, he's become so accustomed to winning. Simply he's had it too easy by one definition, I'm not saying it was easy but his training, conditioning, fine tuning, meticulous preparation amongst other angles I haven't mentioned and have merely forgot haven't been enough.

He is not saying he refuses to accept it, just mourning his loss. The way some will interpret this it really has to be stated.

I definitely think there's some truth to that.

I also think I'm smelling rematch.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Apparently they gave Fury the wrong gloves in the end anyway.

Then that's just even more embarrassing for Boente. I'm now quite sure the gloves issue was to throw him off of his game, but it does not excuse Hennessey either as he quite clearly knew months previous they were not ok .

I'm not sure what to add to this as I think both sides are due heavy criticism here.

[Jewish-Reptile]

I definitely think there's some truth to that.

I also think I'm smelling rematch.

I replied further to this in edit.

Rematch has to happen, fans of Wlad need to know can he make adjustments. Or simply really go for it if need be, by this I mean like really go full on Rakhim Chakhkiev on someone if it calls for it. What I am saying is he needed that mid fight, but I think he just thought if I am patient openings will present themselves, he know needs to fight with the attitude openings may not open and I have to force the issue. I as a fan have to know he is capable of changing, it is so deeply frustrating he couldn't see this the first time but I think I understand the mind set he had that night, don't be rash, be patient for instance.

We know now Fury is much better than widely acknowledged or previous thought or held, he is no.1 for good reason, but I feel it was a tight fight, close rounds and Wlad proved he is an exceptionally close second, with not a great deal to separate them, but clearly Fury is or at least was better. I accept Fury is a better all round fighter, can Wlad snap out of this fighter he has willingly become and become something even more fearsome and all round better fighter, it may be too late in his career to make necessary adjustments needed to combat and bigger more fluid fighter with huge advantages over him. If he can his legacy will be that even more impressive, if it isn't he is still an ATG, HOF'r but it ends there, no GOAT arguments should ever be presented or heard of.

You can't be acknowledged the best when you lost to really the only one guy bigger than you, who posed a threat. Some Klitschko fans need to stand up and face reality.

[Jewish-Reptile]

For some reason every time i go on or refresh page 591 I can not multi quote, reply to comments, their are like three comments I want to respond to !

I am on iPad, could it be something with my settings ? I can on other pages but this isn't just exclusive to this page it has happened on others and other threads too ! I have no explanation.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Frankly? in my humble opinion...pinning this on Banks is like the knight fighting King Arthur in Monty Python, after Author lops off his sword arm the black knight states "come in its only a flesh wound." Yeah just a small abrasion, just replace the corner guy, fight on....

Vlad has a great relationship with banks, he can't really make sudden adjustments in the ring... How is another trainer going to help that process?

Some fighters are very coachable. A guy like Holyfield for example, who can box when asked to do so....But guys like Vlad, haye are not adjustable. they have particular methods that they rely upon.

This. Banks was not the problem, Klitschko was.

Always this happens and it is wrong, the fighter has to stand up and take account of his actions, in this instance his inaction. He failed to raise his game, failed to let go of fear and inhibition, if he can not do this in rematch frankly I don't want to see it.

For those doubting Klitschko can I would like them to stand up and be counted as so many Wlad fans stuck their heads out and said Fury would lose to Klitschko. Wlad is and was a great great champion, not the best but one of the best. For Fury to defeat him is a huge measure of the man, he really needs to win his fights outside the ring as opposed to in them also, as he can really unravel, had that fight been going against him could he have turned it around ?

These are now interesting questions Klitschko fans face, I believe we may yet see a different side to a remarkable champion in Klitschko, he should stick by Banks, you don't throw your buddy under the bus because you blew it yourself.

Klitschko was not ready for that challenge as crazy and wild as it seems, he now knows what he has to do and faces the insecurities Fury may yet have more sides to his game too, he hasn't now A side advantage but he has this rematch clause and he has to make sure he is ready mentally inside and outside the ring to make adjustments.

It's simple, if Wlad isn't winning and Fury is doing what he did before he has to attack the weakest ***** in Fury's armour, his susceptibility to huge overhand rights, a straight right without a jab, anything and everything, the kitchen sink Fury used against USS for instance.