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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Bud will be taking a big risk so will be rewarded for having a memorable singular win, right up there with the best of em. But if course will need to back it up with a few extra wins to join Ali, Srr and Pac.
    I agree
    PryorHawk ijudge likes this.

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      #22
      It's an ooooold sport, and "ATG" is a VERY large mountain to climb, Bud.

      To further illustrate, I'll Divide the Modern (gloved) Era in half, into two 65 year blocks; and make a top 30 all-time list for each period.

      Bud is a great fighter, NO DOUBT, but he's not much of an historian, LOL.



      1894 - 1959
      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
      2. Harry Greb
      3. Sam Langford
      4. Willie Pep
      5. Joe Louis
      6. Henry Armstrong
      7. Benny Leonard
      8. Abe Attell
      9. Jack Johnson
      10.Mickey Walker
      11.Jack Dempsey
      12.Gene Tunney
      13.Tony Canzoneri
      14.Joe Gans
      15.Barney Ross
      16.Jimmy Wilde
      17.Marcel Cerdan
      18.Rocky Marciano
      19.Jimmy McLarnin
      20.Stanley Ketchel
      21.Ezzard Charles
      22.Georges Carpentier
      23.Archie Moore
      24.Barbados (Original) Joe Walcott
      25.Bob Fitzsimmons
      26.Jake LaMotta
      27.Terry McGovern
      28.Battling Nelson
      29.Billy Conn
      30.Sandy Saddler



      1960 - 2025
      1. Muhammad Ali
      2. Roberto Duran
      3. Sugar Ray Leonard
      4. Manny Pacquiao
      5. Carlos Monzon
      6. Julio Cesar Chavez
      7. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
      8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
      9. Salvador Sanchez
      10.Jose Napoles
      11.Wilfredo Gomez
      12.Bob Foster
      13.Eder Jofre
      14.Thomas Hearns
      15.Roy Jones Jr.
      16.Alexis Arguello
      17.George Foreman
      18.Carlos Zarate
      19.Bernard Hopkins
      20.Oleksandr Usyk
      21.Michael Spinks
      22.Ruben Olivares
      23.Larry Holmes
      24.Pernell Whitaker
      25.Lennox Lewis
      26.Emile Griffith
      27.Sonny Liston
      28.Evander Holyfield
      29.Wilfredo Benitez
      30.Mike Tyson

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        #23
        Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        I agree
        I do feel sorry for bud if all he thinks he has to do is beat Nel o then he can retire with pipe and slippers in front of fire on a fireside leather chair, with the knowledge hes as great as srr and Ali. Truth is, buds win over Nel o might be as good as any srr win or Ali win, but theyve deeper resumes
        Last edited by hugh grant; 04-11-2025, 10:35 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          I do feel sorry for bud if all he thinks he has to do is beat Nel o then he can retire with pipe and slippers in front of fire on a fireside leather chair, with the knowledge hes as great as srr and Ali. Truth is, buds win over Nel o might be as good as any srr win or Ali win, but theyve deeper resumes
          It looks good because Canelo is the best you can do in this era of boxing

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            #25
            Only if Ginger is considered a top 10 ATG. If Ginger isn't considered a top 10 ATG, there is no way a Bud win over Ginger makes him a top 3 ATG..

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              #26
              Not for me but if he wins you can at least entertain a discussion between him, Floyd and Roy as best p4p since Ray Leonard.

              I would still favor Floyd and Roy.

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                #27
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Not for me but if he wins you can at least entertain a discussion between him, Floyd and Roy as best p4p since Ray Leonard.

                I would still favor Floyd and Roy.
                "Entertain" being the key word...

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                  #28
                  I like you Bud but this is almost delusional talk

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

                    Regarding the bold, Bud is not alone in that thought.
                    Use a search engine of your choice are search.
                    Not getting busted is just a matter of timely testing and if he's giving blood.
                    Not sure if Holy ever failed a test either !
                    Safe to assume ?!?!?

                    Hardcore Bud fans hark back to his pre WW career
                    Pure meh, if I'm being honest

                    That leaves Spence, which is a solid W no matter how you cut it.
                    If Spence wanted to act the fool prior to the fight, that's on him.
                    Bud did what he was supposed to do.

                    If he plans on getting into the HOF, he needs Nelo's scalp....imho
                    Re Pacquiao, there's NO concrete evidence plus Crawford wasn't making those kind of accusations in the past when he was actively pursuing the Pacquiao fight. Otherwise, why would he want to fight Pacquiao if he TRULY believed he was a drugs cheat and jeopardize his health?

                    However, I agree with the rest of your post. Crawford deserves full credit for beating Spence (even if he had only fought twice in the 3 years prior due to his life-changing car crash). Having said that, the rest of his CV is AVERAGE at best as all of the biggest names he beat were badly damaged goods i.e. Khan, Brook, Porter etc.

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                      #30
                      Nahh. Not even close bud.

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