Welter greats Mayweather would have ducked

[djtmal]

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I've proven everything I've stated with video evidence t.

Lol. A video of Manny Pacquiao saying he is not interested in being blood tested the day of a fight doesn't prove a damn thing.

I pointed out the actual negotiation ie what actually took place, the poster pointed out that Floyd was stopped in his tracks with the defamation suit that he lost real actual factual but you dismissed that and went on another tangent.

[djtmal]

You can't blame me for you not wanting to provide any proof..

Proof was already provided multiple times multiple sources.

[djtmal]

Say what you want about Mayweather very well losing to monsters like Leonard/Hearns/Duran at 135 but Thurman?

Pffft.

Thurman would’ve gotten beat by Floyd. Furthermore, nobody was “polite” with Floyd. Corley, Mosley, Maidana, Oscar, Cotto and many other fighters tried all their different strategies to beat Floyd. They all failed.

Floyd had multiple opportunities to make a Thurman fight. Thurman was next in line was unified champ and Floyd barely uttered his name after multiple Thurman callouts. Easy to say what Floyd could have done in hindsight.

[djtmal]

You realize this is a lie, right?


Regardless of that being a lie, during the first negotiation, Mayweather ultimately didn't ask Pacquaio to agree to OST. They agreed on extra testing. They disagreed on the timeframe for the extra testing. I would discuss it with you all but something about it makes you all freeze up, duck, and dodge.

Whenever any of you wants a discussion about it, I'll be around.

Don't sound like that here:

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].
"Manny said there had to be a period of time before the fight where they will stop the testing. We negotiated that and we had an agreement on that and Mayweather walked away from it."


Sounds to me like they were demanding Manny be blood tested up to the day of the fight by an unknown entity and Floyd was too scared to fight without it

[Bennyleonard99]

I come to the history section thinking people with some semblance of sanity and genuine interest in the sport and its history will be found here, and I come across this such an obtuse take.

Say what you want about Mayweather very well losing to monsters like Leonard/Hearns/Duran at 135 but Thurman?

Pffft.

Thurman would’ve gotten beat by Floyd. Furthermore, nobody was “polite” with Floyd. Corley, Mosley, Maidana, Oscar, Cotto and many other fighters tried all their different strategies to beat Floyd. They all failed.

Where is all this wave of “protection” allegations coming from? Counters hurt more than regular ass punches. You get punished for attacking. In doing so, you become gun shy. Maidana plowed through but ran out of gas in the first fight. Oscar faded as well. So did Cotto. Floyd was a phenomenal counter puncher with world class stamina coupled that only complimented his low output but extremely high accuracy. You never saw Floyd struggling for air or tiring in the ring. You might look good for half the fight and maybe ok for rounds 7 or 8, but you can’t be taking flush counter shots from Floyd on a1/4 tank of gas. If Mayweather was such a powerpuff puncher, fighters would have just charged towards him non-stop. Punching zaps strength. Missing zaps strength. Clinching/holding/wrestling for a better position zaps strength.

To say Mayweather would have 10 losses is a stretch as well. If he HAD faced Thurman and beat him, you’d just be hanging your hat on Paul Williams…or Margarito…or God knows who else. Floyd is the prime victim of “moving the goal post”.

Mayweather brags about doing anything for money and that his cowardice is what made him rich. Easy to connect the dots.

[Haka]

They were in mediation. I'm sure that's pretty substantive

I have proof that one side declined an extremely reasonable offer, and that's why you guys froze up and won't answer any of my questions.

Why did the first negotiation end? Because Pacquaio refused to accept a 14 day cut-off, correct?

Or is that another question you won't answer? Let me know, because you know I have the proof if you deny this.

No it's not substantive, zero evidence as you just admit it.

[travestyny]

Lol. A video of Manny Pacquiao saying he is not interested in being blood tested the day of a fight doesn't prove a damn thing.

I pointed out the actual negotiation ie what actually took place, the poster pointed out that Floyd was stopped in his tracks with the defamation suit that he lost real actual factual but you dismissed that and went on another tangent.

That's not all he said in the video and you know it. Why keep writing nonsense as if no one can tell it's bullshlt?
The defamation lawsuit is separate from the fight negotiation.


You want to keep this conversation going (three damn notifications from you???) but you want to keep ducking and dodging. Get some help or grow a pair.

[travestyny]

Don't sound like that here:

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].
"Manny said there had to be a period of time before the fight where they will stop the testing. We negotiated that and we had an agreement on that and Mayweather walked away from it."


Sounds to me like they were demanding Manny be blood tested up to the day of the fight by an unknown entity and Floyd was too scared to fight without it

Easily proven false.

Here is Pacquaio's side saying that the offer they got was for a 14 day cut-off, and that Pacquaio himself turned it down. Not only that, I gave you a video with Pacquiao HIMSELF declining the 14 day cutt-off.

However, Koncz said he was informed of the offer by promoter Bob Arum and that he brought it directly to Pacquiao, who would not even consider it. Koncz said Pacquiao was very firm in his decision.

"Bob called and told us about the 14 days and I brought that to Manny and he said, 'I told you, we're not agreeing to that,' and that was pretty much it," Koncz said.

Schaefer called Mayweather's offer "a very fair, very reasonable compromise solution" and said Mayweather is still eager to fight Pacquiao on March 13. Both Schaefer and Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe have denied speaking to any potential other opponents, though Mayweather has been linked through numerous published reports with Paulie Malignaggi.

[travestyny]

No it's not substantive, zero evidence as you just admit it.

The evidence is that Pacquaio admit to declining the 14 day cut-off on video. You need to see it again

[Haka]

The evidence is that Pacquaio admit to declining the 14 day cut-off on video. You need to see it again

Now you are to talking in circles, if you look back at the posts you end up at the conclusions you made yourself.