Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Elroy1]

So called "fans" like Easy Work & ThatLeftaMarc do Wlad no favours.

If Wlad wins, rather than it being celebrated as one of Wlad's best ever victories against a massive, unorthodox, in his prime boxer like Fury, they'll encourage other casuals that Fury was never any threat, and was a fat bum.

There's a reason why this fight is generating so much excitement, even old school Wlad guys like Freedom & Weltz are excited about this fight & give Fury a chance.

^ This makes a lot of sense...

In fact those taking a dump on Fury are not fans of either boxer imo, they are just all around haters.

I never understood trashing the top opponent. That doesn't do your favourite any favours, it just makes it worse for them!

Obviously by all the noise and controversy, it's clear Fury is one of the toughest opponents.

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^ This makes a lot of sense...

In fact those taking a dump on Fury are not fans of either boxer imo, they are just all around haters.

I never understood trashing the top opponent. That doesn't do your favourite any favours, it just makes it worse for them!

Obviously by all the noise and controversy, it's clear Fury is one of the toughest opponents.

ThatLeftaMarc has openly stated on this thread that he's looking forward to reactions on NSB more than the actual fight, and the guy claims to be a boxing fan.

Some Wladimir fans seen to be so insecure when it comes to their man. Most Fury fans on here from what i can gather, respect Wlad's achievements, but just happen to think that Fury has a good chance to win. That's not a slight on Wlad, but all reigns come to an end at some point, and if it isn't Fury it will be someone else. The guy isn't getting any younger.

[PainfromUkraine]

Well, posters like Easy Work aren't exactly helping his case any.

Fury's a live dog and needs to be acknowledged as such.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any posters that have flat out not given Fury ANY hope whatsoever and have even declined to give him 'live dog' status. Anyone really at heavyweight can be a live dog, and it would be quite ridiculous and silly to say Fury doesn't have that distinction in this fight - especially considering the rarity of an opponent being taller than Wlad, with significant other advantages just as reach and weight...for those that class that as an advantage.

Fury is a good opponent for Wlad and he has all the criteria of an opponent to both be a well-matched dance partner and a good, tough challenge for Wlad at this stage of his career...However...

...I personally am just sick of the seemingly growing hype and downright delusion frankly that is building behind Fury to almost troll-like proportions. The guy isn't even fighting and daily he seems to be getting praised as a better and better 'master boxer' on here. If I'm wrong and Fury wins, i'll give him huge props, but the type of garbage some regulars in this thread have posted are almost banishment-worthy from the whole forum if Wlad easily KO's Fury.

If people can't objectively understand that Fury will not be able to do Ali-shuffles, slapping jabs, stance changes and other showboating type stuff that he has been allowed to do against the gassed out midgets and bums he has fought so far that have made him look good for his size especially, then there isn't much you can say.

I will be SHOCKED if this fight goes 12 rounds. The problem for Fury in this fight is he is simply not a particularly good defensive boxer, especially - you would have to assume - against someone near his size like Wlad, with Wlad's punch technique and speed which will all be the best Fury has faced in his career. Wlad WILL land with bombs at some point in this fight, and I just don't see Fury standing up to them...

The real story of this fight, realistically and objectively, is that Fury is fighting someone with more experience, speed, power, athleticism and size than he has ever faced before. On Wlad's side, he is merely facing someone with better statistical size attributes, youth, and unorthodox style. Unfortunately, I don't think Fury brings more to the table in terms of more power, speed or technique than any of Wlad's best past opponents - for example Haye's explosiveness and power, or Povetkin's skill, speed and relentlessness, which are some of the main pre-requisites to beat Wlad.

If Wlad has significantly aged and declined further, Fury has a better shot. But really, it is more about what Wlad might have lost than what Fury might have gained. Anywhere near prime Wlad beats the Fury of what we have seen.

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I think you'd be hard pressed to find any posters that have flat out not given Fury ANY hope whatsoever and have even declined to give him 'live dog' status.

Ffs Hayden Panatierre would ktfo Fury if she could reach his chin. Fury is a circus act...if Cunningham ....a cruiserweight...could nearly starch Fury what do you think would happen if Wlad hit him flush?

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The first post on the second page, this thread is full of posters completely writing him off. Fury is the most underrated fighter in boxing.

[PainfromUkraine]

The first post on the second page, this thread is full of posters completely writing him off. Fury is the most underrated fighter in boxing.

As I said in the rest of my post, the hype has grown steadily...just compare the last months of this thread to the first ones...and this hype has grown without Fury actually having done anything particularly impressive, in my eyes anyway.

How is he underrated...I really don't get that. Comparing him to someone like Wilder who is probably overrated does not mean Fury is underrated. If he beats Wlad or gives him hell, then we can give him major props for being underrated by some who could never see that coming.

Although, by the poll, I see your point. I just meant a hell of a lot of posters here are actually writing thoughts on Fury which definitely 'overrate' more than 'underrate'.

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As I said in the rest of my post, the hype has grown steadily...just compare the last months of this thread to the first ones...and this hype has grown without Fury actually having done anything particularly impressive, in my eyes anyway.

How is he underrated...I really don't get that. Comparing him to someone like Wilder who is probably overrated does not mean Fury is underrated. If he beats Wlad or gives him hell, then we can give him major props for being underrated by some who could never see that coming.

Although, by the poll, I see your point. I just meant a hell of a lot of posters here are actually writing thoughts on Fury which definitely 'overrate' more than 'underrate'.

Go on Twitter, or even this thread, and the amount of people who claim that Fury is an unskilled oaf is crazy! Any serious boxing fan who watched his performances against Chisora & Hammer can't deny that he has skill, he does things that I've never seen for a guy his size. I've posted it a few times but for anyone who's missed it, please read.



Now yes i agree that Wlad is on another level to anyone Fury has faced so far, and his lack of experience against massive fighters like Wlad is a concern, but i happen to believe that we havnt yet seen the best Tyson Fury, and that he's one of these guys who raises his level against elite opposition. This coupled with Wlad's decline imo makes this a fascinating fight.

I think people underrate him because they're blinded by their dislike for his personality, plus his gypsy heritage that he doesn't hesitate to play up to. Now insulting legends like Lennox hasn't done his PR any good, but this is boxing! We need guys like Fury imo, he brings a breath of fresh air, and has more personality in his little finger than most boxers have in their entire body.

[BOMB ZQUAD]

ThatLeftaMarc has openly stated on this thread that he's looking forward to reactions on NSB more than the actual fight, and the guy claims to be a boxing fan.

Of course I am, do you not see what some of these Klitschko haters are saying? It baffles me and makes me cringe to a degree. KnockedoutNed nice try buddy, why'd you take off that gif in your signature of Pulev jabbing Wlad?

This fight will be one of the most entertaining heavyweight fights in a long time, I'm eager to see it.

Sadly, if Klitschko wins I really don't think people like Ned will stop trash talking Wlad. It's like he has some kind of vendetta against him

[PainfromUkraine]

Go on Twitter, or even this thread, and the amount of people who claim that Fury is an unskilled oaf is crazy! Any serious boxing fan who watched his performances against Chisora & Hammer can't deny that he has skill, he does things that I've never seen for a guy his size. I've posted it a few times but for anyone who's missed it, please read.



Now yes i agree that Wlad is on another level to anyone Fury has faced so far, and his lack of experience against massive fighters like Wlad is a concern, but i happen to believe that we havnt yet seen the best Tyson Fury, and that he's one of these guys who raises his level against elite opposition. This coupled with Wlad's decline imo makes this a fascinating fight.

I think people underrate him because they're blinded by their dislike for his personality, plus his gypsy heritage that he doesn't hesitate to play up to. Now insulting legends like Lennox hasn't done his PR any good, but this is boxing! We need guys like Fury imo, he brings a breath of fresh air, and has more personality in his little finger than most boxers have in their entire body.

The man has skill, admirable skill even for his size...and is perhaps the most unorthodox heavyweight with champion potential ever. However, I'd just wish he didn't get so out of shape between fights, and also got some fights with bigger guys than he has been. Making him feel like the next Ali beating around small guys with ease could unfortunately for him lead him to a very rude awakening v Wlad. Sadly, Fury isn't steel fisted...and to stop Wlad he will have to smother him on the inside. Will that be allowed in Germany, and will Wlad not get through with a bomb or two to get rid of Fury if that situation arises...who knows, but I'm sure we the fans will be in for a treat.

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Of course I am, do you not see what some of these Klitschko haters are saying? It baffles me and makes me cringe to a degree. KnockedoutNed nice try buddy, why'd you take off that gif in your signature of Pulev jabbing Wlad?

This fight will be one of the most entertaining heavyweight fights in a long time, I'm eager to see it.

Sadly, if Klitschko wins I really don't think people like Ned will stop trash talking Wlad. It's like he has some kind of vendetta against him

Ned clearly isn't a fan of Wlad, but some of the points he brings up are valid, and backs up his opinions with analysis & facts. I don't agree with everything he says, but coming on here trolling isn't the way to counter him.

[Ravens Fan]

All the Wlad hardcore keep harping on about how Wlad is a different animal now yet spectacularly fail to grasp (or just plain ignore) the possibility that the same is true of the much younger Fury. They're both significantly different fighters from a few years ago; only Fury, by dint of his age, has shown a more drastic improvement in a shorter time. Wlad's had a longer time to mature.

Bringing up the Sanders, Brewster or Cunningham fights is pointless at this stage. Neither fighter is the same as they were back then.

Pointless? Fury has only fought 22 rounds since the Cunningham fight. And many believe Steve was his best opponent to date. So, how can it possibly be pointless to reflect on what happened in that fight?

As far as Wald is concerned, since his last lose he has had almost as many fights as Fury has had in his entire career. And most of them have been against legit top ten fighters.