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    #1401
    Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
    No that's crap, you DID imply that variety of shots = greater skills (and hence Fury being greater skilled).

    Oh and yeah right, all 70 Klitshko opponents were fat turds with cement block feet.

    In reality every kind of imagiable opponent has been conquered by Klitschko from the awkward southpaw, to the slick counter-puncher to the menacing slugger, to the pressure fighter.

    And more the point we are talking about the undisputable best resume of all time- completely objectively.

    The minimalist style has proven to be the most difficult puzzle to crack in all of boxing history, that's just a plain fact!
    God you're an idiot.

    If Fury has better skills in punch variety, which he does or shows, it doesn't mean he's more skillful in total How can you not understand that?

    No we're not.

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      #1402
      As predicted, Fury is going to his superior movement and footwork, and will box rings around the old man.


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        #1403
        Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
        No that's crap, you DID imply that variety of shots = greater skills (and hence Fury being greater skilled).

        Oh and yeah right, all 70 Klitshko opponents were fat turds with cement block feet.

        In reality every kind of imagiable opponent has been conquered by Klitschko from the awkward southpaw, to the slick counter-puncher to the menacing slugger, to the pressure fighter.

        And more the point we are talking about the undisputable best resume of all time- completely objectively.

        The minimalist style has proven to be the most difficult puzzle to crack in all of boxing history, that's just a plain fact!
        Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
        variet of shots DOES = higher skill.

        The answer isn't as simple as whoever has a better repertoire of punches is the more skilled fighter, but your attempt to convince people that a smaller selection of punches is a sign of a more skilled fighter, and that skilled fighters "discard" punches they "don't need". That's the most ridiculous thing i've heard since some cat said Pac was a 32 time champion. Even at the highest level, or should I say especially at the highest level, you never "throw away" tools in you arsenal, you never know when you might need the based on the opponent or the nature of the fight.

        It's another thing to be economical with your punches, and movement, and to only show certain punches and looks, but that's part of ring IQ, and that's another story entirely.

        Honestly, you would be laughed out the door of my gym if you tried to tell bring that kind of logic around.
        Wlad has always been one of those "love him or hate him" fighters because he does some things fantastically well, and other things, he can't do at all.

        Over the years, he has learned how to use his strengths to prevent opponents from exploiting his weaknesses, and this can lead to ugly fights.

        Skills can be learned, talent is inborn. Fury has more natural, inborn talent than Wlad, no doubt about that. But Wlad has skills that Fury is still developing.

        Fury's talent allows him to do things Wlad can't do, like throw punches going backwards or while moving to either side.

        But that doesn't make him more skillful than Wlad. As I said, skills and talent are different qualities.

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          #1404
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          As predicted, Fury is going to his superior movement and footwork, and will box rings around the old man.


          Good news for Fury fans.

          Movement, plus reach, plus stamina and punch rate, can win this fight for Fury.

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            #1405
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Good news for Fury fans.

            Movement, plus reach, plus stamina and punch rate, can win this fight for Fury.
            Fury turning up out of shape and unprepared is Wlad's wet dream. I think that's what scared David Haye. Haye was expecting Fury to turn up fat and unprepared. When he saw a ripped, slimline, huge Fury, he shat his pants.

            No doubt that Fury will be the fittest man in the ring on October 24th

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              #1406
              Originally posted by denium View Post
              Fury turning up out of shape and unprepared is Wlad's wet dream. I think that's what scared David Haye. Haye was expecting Fury to turn up fat and unprepared. When he saw a ripped, slimline, huge Fury, he shat his pants.

              No doubt that Fury will be the fittest man in the ring on October 24th
              OMFG! You guys never cease to crack me up. Just listen to yourselves!

              Seriously. But, you know what? I don't even care as long as you give Wladimir his due credit when he makes beating Fury look easy.

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                #1407
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                OMFG! You guys never cease to crack me up. Just listen to yourselves!

                Seriously. But, you know what? I don't even care as long as you give Wladimir his due credit when he makes beating Fury look easy.
                Fury has a great engine, throws roughly twice as many punches as Wlad does over 12, doesn't rely on leaning all over and grabbing his opponent to conserve stamina, and has never gassed in a fight and been KTFO.

                Wlad is also 39 and on the way out. Fury is 27 and in his prime.

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                  #1408
                  Originally posted by denium View Post
                  Fury has a great engine, throws roughly twice as many punches as Wlad does over 12, doesn't rely on leaning all over and grabbing his opponent to conserve stamina, and has never gassed in a fight and been KTFO.

                  Wlad is also 39 and on the way out. Fury is 27 and in his prime.
                  Remember when he posted all the junk food on his twitter and these numpties actually believed he'd seriously show up to the ring obese

                  Fury is a smart man, him and his team know Wlad is too one dimensional to handle the pace and the movement.
                  All anybody has to see is him getting outboxed and shamelessly quitting against TOS or going life and death with a rank novice like Janitor Jennings.

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                    #1409
                    Originally posted by denium View Post
                    Fury has a great engine, throws roughly twice as many punches as Wlad does over 12, doesn't rely on leaning all over and grabbing his opponent to conserve stamina, and has never gassed in a fight and been KTFO.

                    Wlad is also 39 and on the way out. Fury is 27 and in his prime.
                    Nothing but the truth.

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                      #1410
                      Originally posted by denium View Post
                      Fury has a great engine, throws roughly twice as many punches as Wlad does over 12, doesn't rely on leaning all over and grabbing his opponent to conserve stamina, and has never gassed in a fight and been KTFO.

                      Wlad is also 39 and on the way out. Fury is 27 and in his prime.
                      So because he has stamina it means he will be in better physical shape now?

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