Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Jewish-Reptile]

You have got to be kidding.

Lmfao, he isn't that is the best part.

Wlad has faster hands, feet and by far the most powerful of the two. I believe Wlad has more far more power in his jab and left hook, watching over their fights it is a considerable difference. Their isnt any pitty patting no behalf of Wlad unless he is sticking the left out as though using it as a measuring stick to find his range.

Just watched the Wach fight again to see how Wlad measures up facing the taller opposition and his clinching is still part of the tactics, I mean you only have to reference the Vitali vs Lewis fight to understand the tall guys are still able to clinch each other, this fallacy the Fury fans would like you to believe Fury will manhandle Wlad upon him attempting rough house tactics, clinching etc is nonsense.

These posts are laughable to suggest otherwise, my guess is the only people backing Fury have never watched a single Klitschko fight and are backing Fury on some kind of ignorance or blinded fan boy mentality.

[Jewish-Reptile]

The only attribute, well of you can call it one, that Fury trumps Wlad with his clumsiness and possibly awkwardness, I mean a guy who can hit himself with an uppercut is truly a special talent, and should be held in 'special' regard.

[LoadedWraps]

The only attribute, well of you can call it one, that Fury trumps Wlad with his clumsiness and possibly awkwardness, I mean a guy who can hit himself with an uppercut is truly a special talent, and should be held in 'special' regard.

Fury is a graceful boxer. He hit himself because the punch grazed the arm/glove of the opponent and sent it into his face, it really means nothing, quit trying to hang your hat on a single moment as if it defines the fighter. I have been boxing since 2006 and I have done similar twice hitting an uppercut bag when I get too cute and try to throw quick combos and I am not in range and throw one too tight and I barely skin the bag, momentum will bring your punch back at you, you feel silly when it happens but that's physics, it's not really indicative of a lack of skill, just like even the best baskeball shooters shoot bricks and airballs now and then, world class pitchers throw wild pitches when fatigued, and elite strikers spin off the ball the wrong way once in a while at point blank range. It just happens.

I would say it takes a special kind of person to sit there with a straight face and deny that Fury is an elite fighter that cannot be beaten by anyone in the division, Wlad will have no answer for his arsenal of powerful, fast combinations and will break.

[Mooshashi]

Fury is a graceful boxer. He hit himself because the punch grazed the arm/glove of the opponent and sent it into his face, it really means nothing, quit trying to hang your hat on a single moment as if it defines the fighter. I have been boxing since 2006 and I have done similar twice hitting an uppercut bag when I get too cute and try to throw quick combos and I am not in range and throw one too tight and I barely skin the bag, momentum will bring your punch back at you, you feel silly when it happens but that's physics, it's not really indicative of a lack of skill, just like even the best baskeball shooters shoot bricks and airballs now and then, world class pitchers throw wild pitches when fatigued, and elite strikers spin off the ball the wrong way once in a while at point blank range. It just happens.

I would say it takes a special kind of person to sit there with a straight face and deny that Fury is an elite fighter that cannot be beaten by anyone in the division, Wlad will have no answer for his arsenal of powerful, fast combinations and will break.

Ok I admit I'm special and I'm saying this with a straight face (difficult to maintain when discussing Fury) : Wlad is going to humiliate Fury. H.U.M.I.L.I.A.T.E. him.

[yoz]

The only attribute, well of you can call it one, that Fury trumps Wlad with his clumsiness and possibly awkwardness, I mean a guy who can hit himself with an uppercut is truly a special talent, and should be held in 'special' regard.

[LoadedWraps]

Ok I admit I'm special and I'm saying this with a straight face (difficult to maintain when discussing Fury) : Wlad is going to humiliate Fury. H.U.M.I.L.I.A.T.E. him.

If it happens it happens, but on paper Fury has all the right tools to beat him. Height, speed, power, high ring IQ, heart, hunger, and a granite chin.

[Jewish-Reptile]

I don't understand where this myth/ fallacy has sprung from thst Fury has elite level power. I mean if I tried to convince myself like you have by repeating it over and over I still do not believe it would impact upon me to the point i believed it, simply because it isn't there. David Haye had power he obliterated Chisora, Fury did not he had 22 rounds to showcase this explosive power you keep going on and on about, but it simply wasnt showcased, neither was it in 36 minutes against Kevin Johnson either, come to think of it in the seven rounds it took Fury to deal with the feather fisted Cunningham, it really wasnt a concussive punch or punches that ended their fight, it was a blatant foul in which Duva intended to pursue a NC for, I'm supposing they were paid off not to pursue that avenue though.

[LoadedWraps]

I don't understand where this myth/ fallacy has sprung from thst Fury has elite level power. I mean if I tried to convince myself like you have by repeating it over and over I still do not believe it would impact upon me to the point i believed it, simply because it isn't there. David Haye had power he obliterated Chisora, Fury did not he had 22 rounds to showcase this explosive power you keep going on and on about, but it simply wasnt showcased, neither was it in 36 minutes against Kevin Johnson either, come to think of it in the seven rounds it took Fury to deal with the feather fisted Cunningham, it really wasnt a concussive punch or punches that ended their fight, it was a blatant foul in which Duva intended to pursue a NC for, I'm supposing they were paid off not to pursue that avenue though.

Even if Fury had feather fists, he has the workrate and accuracy and punch repertoire to win on points. His reach and height and ability to close the gap and cut off the ring would cancel out Wlads jab and make him uncomfortable, and force a phone booth fight.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Even if Fury had feather fists, he has the workrate and accuracy and punch repertoire to win on points. His reach and height and ability to close the gap and cut off the ring would cancel out Wlads jab and make him uncomfortable, and force a phone booth fight.

His work rate will be that of every other Klitschko opponent upon tasting the steelhammer, zero, ie survival mode.

[PainfromUkraine]

If it happens it happens, but on paper Fury has all the right tools to beat him. Height, speed, power, high ring IQ, heart, hunger, and a granite chin.

The more you post the same things the more you look like a troll. The poll results should tell you what people think of your prediction.

Height? Check, although there isn't much to suggest that it's height that is needed to beat Wlad. Speed? He isn't slow for a big man, that's all that you can say really. Power? Fury has never stopped or hurt anyone with a great chin with one shot. Kevin Johnson and Chisora were both way past their best and were two fighters who either simply didn't have a good workrate or intention to fight (Johnson) and someone who had no ability to overcome a massive height and reach disadvantage (Chisora), who quit essentially.

Heart and hunger, fair enough, he seems to have a good mentality with confidence in himself and seems to show a good desire to become champ. Does he have more desire or heart than Wlad does to remain champ for as long as possible? I doubt it.

Here's the funny ones though, and really make you look either completely delusional or a troll. Granite chin a distinction at heavyweight that is only afforded to guys like Ali, Vitali, McCall etc...not someone who has already been dropped by pillow punching tomato cans like Neven Pajkic and gone down hard vs a cruiserweight. There is no excuses, if these things happen to you as a heavyweight contender, you don't have a good chin. And perhaps funniest of all, ring IQ - do you know what ring IQ means? Fury doesn't have good ring IQ at all, he invariably makes silly decisions and takes ****** risks and fights in a completely unorthodox way which will be punished by someone like Wlad. If you are referring to his ability to switch tactics and things like fighting out of different stances does not constitute ring IQ IMO.