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    Tyson Fury finding new ways to duck AJ

    I read recently that ultra corrupt caretaker of the WBC, Mauricio Suliaman, has opened the door for Tyson Fury to jump the line up, again, for a world title shot if he decides to unretire, again.
    Now, Fury, at the moment, is in a bit of a tough spot. He loves money, and he particularly likes earning it against easy opponents. Wilder, as we now know, was a protected and hyped fighter who got exposed as soon as he came up against decent opponents. It wasn't age that beat him, it was simply the fact that he is just no good. Fury, for his part, also got hyped after beating the likes of Sefer Seferi, Nemanja Pajkic (who dropped him), Tom Schwartz, Otto Wallin (who battered him) and John McDermott (who actually got robbed against TF). Then there's the debacle of getting a gift decision against that MMA guy, and Chisora X 2 when there were deserving opponents wanting their shot. So why is he in a tough spot? Because if and when he unretires, again again, the fight that is being mooted is versus AJ, whom Fury wants no part of. Enter Suliaman right on cue. Now the big fella has hs excuse to duck AJ, again.
    After winning his dancefest against Wlad (credit for that) he has cunningly avoided all the better contenders, whilst somehow fooling people into mentioning him in the same breath as the likes of Foreman, Holmes and Ali. He's a con man but he's a good one. Getting massive props for beating Wilder a couple of times, when Wilder himself was pure hype and does not have one single elite name in his win column - this somehow elevating the big fraud to some kind of HOF status - it's crazy and when you stop and look at his ridiculously thin resume, and the decisions he got against McDermott, Wallin and Ngannou, that so many still think he is a top hw, in historical terms.
    If he'd have taken on Parker, Dubois, Ruiz, AJ and any other top challengers, he would be a footnote in this era. But he has been cleverly managed, in collusion with the WBC, and as fans we simply don't get the actual fights that we deserve and ought to see.
    Instead we are told that he is a great, and he is advertised as top billing and we are to appreciate him.
    I'd appreciate him if he just disappeared. Anyone who can't see him for what he is - a big lad with a few attributes and a carefully navigated career - needs new eyes. He's been bad for boxing, as has Mr. WBC Swiss Bank Account himself.
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    #2
    He might be 2nd best of era which isn't too bad. If ddd beats usyk, then fury needs ddd real bad.

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      #3
      Who cares
      They’re both useless
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        #4
        I stated in the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'That I would not be surprised now, if Tyson Fury tactically retires in order to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua'.

        Lets all think back to the months, and weeks leading up to both the first and second Fury vs Uysk I & II fights. Tyson Fury was very certain that he was not only going to beat Oleksandr Usyk, but go through him like locomotive express train. But neither of those events happened, instead? Oleksandr Uysk pushed about and smashed up Tyson Fury during round 9 in their first fight. And then in the second fight for the first time ever in Tyson Fury's carer, he was unable to throw caution to the wind and pressure a opponent when he really needed to in order to win.

        Tyson Fury outweighed Oleksandr Uysk by 50 + pounds in the second fight 'Uysk has never been known for his brute strength, or punching power. But if? You were to have watched Uysk for the first time ever in his career vs Tyson Fury I & II. Those two fights give the impression that he has the combined brute strength of David Tua, George Forman and Evander Holyfield. And the combined offensive power of Mike Tyson, Ron Lyle, and Ray Mercer. Tyson Fury's behaviour suggested that Uysk, in all seriousness? Hit with more power and destructiveness then Deontay Wilder. If this was not the situation, then why did Tyson Fury refuse to pressure Oleksandr Uysk II during the rematch'.

        The reality of Tyson Fury's efforts vs Oleksandr Usyk I & II 'Is that he fought a less aggressive fight, twice back to back than Anthony Joshua. And Oleksandr Uysk was statistically able to land punches upon Fury with more ease, than he was able to land on Anthony Joshua. That is what the statistics of all 4 fights display, it is not an opinion. It is an objective fact of the fight action'.

        And this is why in the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I stated that there is no way Tyson Fury now fights Anthony Joshua. If Fury was all apprehensive, and tentative vs Oleksandr Uysk II. The fight vs Anthony Joshua stylistically has just become many times more difficult'.

        Note: Tyson Fury his entire career has watched Anthony Joshua outperform him 'So have all of Tyson Fury's hardcore fans. In all the common opponents which they have both competed against, Anthony Joshua has conclusive beaten all of them in more brutal fashion. The ultimate aim of boxing, is to render your opponent incapable of defending themselves. Anthony Joshua knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko in the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years, forced a stoppage vs Otto Wallin and totally decimated Francis Ngannou'.

        Tyson Fury both in my opinion, and from my perception 'Has never wanted to fight Anthony Joshua. Stylistically it has always been a very difficult fight for him; Anthony Joshua is a super heavyweight fighter with proven boxing skills, combined with world to elite level power. Tyson Fury throughout his entire career, has never really fought opponents with those combined attributes'.

        Wladimir Kiltschko is the only fighter with those attributes 'And lets all be honest? Tyson Fury fought on the back foot all night. Fury neither beat up or seriously hurt Wladimir Kiltschko. It was a great win for Tyson Fury's resume, but very far from being a boxing master class. Plus? Tyson Fury never followed through with the rematch unfortunately due to this then circumstance, instead leaving Anthony Joshua in his 19th professional fight to tackle Wladimir Kiltschko. Anthony Joshua fought and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have fought in his scheduled rematch, but unfortunately did not due to his then circumstance'.

        I just believe that throughout the years, all of those fights and evidence has compounded within Tyson Fury 'To the point where, I would be extremely surprised if he ever mentioned the potential prospect if fighting Anthony Joshua'.

        To conclude: Tyson Fury is one of the three heavyweight mountains of this era, he has been a great fighter 'But he is not about that life guys i.e. I am about 95% sure that Tyson Fury has never had a straightener or fight outside the ring in his life. He is no bare knuckle fighter, but? He has benefited from being associated with this culture. None of his brothers are about that life, this is what people need to understand about them. And this is no disrespect, I don't think fighting outside of the ring is something to be really condoned'.

        But when you are a professional fighter 'Who has benefited and promotes yourself, as being associated and a bi-product of this fighting culture. When you are in a competitive situation, where in my opinion? You seem not to be about that life. Then I am going to call you out'.

        It is 2025, Tyson Fury has tactically retired to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua 'There are no obstacles in the way of making that fight. Neither fighter is a world champion, and as Eddie Hearn has recently stated? The fight could be agreed within minutes on a phone. The main factor stopping the fight from being made is Tyson Fury'.

        If ever the situation occurs were both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua cross pathways on the street 'I would back Anthony Joshua. And inside a boxing ring, I would definitively back Joshua' etc.







        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-02-2025, 07:25 AM.
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          #5
          These Joshua fans and their Post-Tramatic Stress Disorder.

          I love Joshua. Even make pilgrimages to London and Cardiff to join in the parties thrown in his honor; but making indefensible insults towards Wilder are NOT going to undo Joshua's disasters, the likes of which Wilder NEVER experienced before age 38, in spite of, in the real world, his having met the best (Fury), which Joshua never got a chance to do before coming to New York and getting knocked out.

          THAT, is the only valid discussion there is about the relatve quality of Joshua's opposition vs. Wilder's.

          End of story.


          Here is my advice: Live with the fact that there is enough room in the world to accommodate more than one great heavyweight. The only way to narrow the number is to maintain a single linear title.


          The current era is 2015 - 2025

          1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
          2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
          3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
          4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
          5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
          6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
          7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
          8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
          9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
          10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
          11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
          12.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
          13.Joe Joyce, England 16-3-0 (15)
          14.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)
          15.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-0. (16)
          16.Derrick Chisora, England 36-13-0(23)
          17.Alexander Povetkin, Russia 36-3-1 (25)
          18.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria 32-3-0 (14)
          19.Filip Hrgovic, Croatia 17-1-0 (14)
          20.Charles Martin, USA 30-4-1 (27)
          21.Fabio Wardley, England 18-0-1 (17)
          22.Carlos Takam, Cameroon 40-8-1 (28)
          23.Johann Duhaupas, France 39-7-0 (26)
          24.Robert Helenius, Finland 32-5-0 (21)
          25.Otto Wallin, Sweden 27-3-0 (15)
          Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 07-02-2025, 12:56 PM.

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            #6
            Load are bollocks you talk Froch uppercut. Tyson Fury has finally spoken.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
              These Joshua fans and their Post-Tramatic Stress Disorder.

              I love Joshua. Even make pilgrimages to London and Cardiff to join in the parties thrown in his honor; but making indefensible insults towards Wilder are NOT going to undo Joshua's disasters, the likes of which Wilder NEVER experienced before age 38, in spite of, in the real world, his having met the best (Fury), which Joshua never got a chance to do before coming to New York and getting knocked out.

              THAT, is the only valid discussion there is about the relatve quality of Joshua's opposition vs. Wilder's.

              End of story.


              Here is my advice: Live with the fact that there is enough room in the world to accommodate more than one great heavyweight. The only way to narrow the number is to maintain a single linear title.


              The current era is 2015 - 2025

              1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
              2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
              3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
              4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
              5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
              6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
              7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
              8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
              9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
              10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
              11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
              12.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
              13.Joe Joyce, England 16-3-0 (15)
              14.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)
              15.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-0. (16)
              16.Derrick Chisora, England 36-13-0(23)
              17.Alexander Povetkin, Russia 36-3-1 (25)
              18.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria 32-3-0 (14)
              19.Filip Hrgovic, Croatia 17-1-0 (14)
              20.Charles Martin, USA 30-4-1 (27)
              21.Fabio Wardley, England 18-0-1 (17)
              22.Carlos Takam, Cameroon 40-8-1 (28)
              23.Johann Duhaupas, France 39-7-0 (26)
              24.Robert Helenius, Finland 32-5-0 (21)
              25.Otto Wallin, Sweden 27-3-0 (15)
              You’re funny with your Wilder love fest.
              explain to me how you got fooled by his hype and his ducking? Who is his best win?
              i am aware that AJ is more limited than we first thought, but he’s a solid hw who has taken on and beaten
              lots of champions and ex - champs.
              Wilder, as I mentioned, literally has zero wins of note on his resume.
              You simply are not acknowledging facts. Including the fact that Fury has a paper thin resume.

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                #8
                I think Usyk will retire after Dubois and then Sulaiman will make Fury fight some set up patsy for the WBC title. Then Fury will win easily and duck AJ again.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                  These Joshua fans and their Post-Tramatic Stress Disorder.

                  I love Joshua. Even make pilgrimages to London and Cardiff to join in the parties thrown in his honor; but making indefensible insults towards Wilder are NOT going to undo Joshua's disasters, the likes of which Wilder NEVER experienced before age 38, in spite of, in the real world, his having met the best (Fury), which Joshua never got a chance to do before coming to New York and getting knocked out.

                  THAT, is the only valid discussion there is about the relatve quality of Joshua's opposition vs. Wilder's.

                  End of story.


                  Here is my advice: Live with the fact that there is enough room in the world to accommodate more than one great heavyweight. The only way to narrow the number is to maintain a single linear title.


                  The current era is 2015 - 2025

                  1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
                  2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
                  3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
                  4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
                  5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
                  6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
                  7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
                  8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
                  9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
                  10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
                  11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
                  12.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
                  13.Joe Joyce, England 16-3-0 (15)
                  14.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)
                  15.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-0. (16)
                  16.Derrick Chisora, England 36-13-0(23)
                  17.Alexander Povetkin, Russia 36-3-1 (25)
                  18.Kubrat Pulev, Bulgaria 32-3-0 (14)
                  19.Filip Hrgovic, Croatia 17-1-0 (14)
                  20.Charles Martin, USA 30-4-1 (27)
                  21.Fabio Wardley, England 18-0-1 (17)
                  22.Carlos Takam, Cameroon 40-8-1 (28)
                  23.Johann Duhaupas, France 39-7-0 (26)
                  24.Robert Helenius, Finland 32-5-0 (21)
                  25.Otto Wallin, Sweden 27-3-0 (15)
                  Why put Kabayel below Zhang when Kabayel not only beat Zhang...but did it to still remain unbeaten?

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