Some very interesting ideas put forward and a lot of passion expressed too.
Make's me wonder how much internet interest Sugar Ray v Duran I would have garnered if fought today?
Elaborate, what interesting ideas.. Pac fought with two good arms.. lost an arm to shoulder injuries.. floyd held him, floyd used illegal IV..
Spoon23 never recovered.. he has seen that fight in slow motion so many times..
he is the ultimate PAC A Maniac...
honestly, I think floyd won, but if I was the ref.. I would have deducted at least 1 point for excessive holding..
floyd is by far the better boxing technician.. but PAC lost,, I would have taken a point for excessive man love.. he hugged up even when he did not get hit..
i am old, my views are mine.. and i get things wrong.. but this thread .. it's longevity, indicates that there are a lot of PAC fans who feel cheated, because Floyd was a matador, and manny was a charging bull..
you can give manny points for effective aggression. but most of his aggression was thwarted by Floyds skills...
Elaborate, what interesting ideas.. Pac fought with two good arms.. lost an arm to shoulder injuries.. floyd held him, floyd used illegal IV..
Spoon23 never recovered.. he has seen that fight in slow motion so many times..
he is the ultimate PAC A Maniac...
honestly, I think floyd won, but if I was the ref.. I would have deducted at least 1 point for excessive holding..
floyd is by far the better boxing technician.. but PAC lost,, I would have taken a point for excessive man love.. he hugged up even when he did not get hit..
i am old, my views are mine.. and i get things wrong.. but this thread .. it's longevity, indicates that there are a lot of PAC fans who feel cheated, because Floyd was a matador, and manny was a charging bull..
you can give manny points for effective aggression. but most of his aggression was thwarted by Floyds skills...
You see what I see...I'm not even sure I believe Pac had a hurt shoulder.
I had Mayweather winning clearly, although I note how incredibly reactive / responsive he was to Pac - he definitely believed he could be hurt (and badly) by Pacquiu.
I don't recall Mayweather being so 'reactive' in another fight's early rounds.
"Interesting ideas" is polite speak for the views of the Pac adherents that he (Pac) won...you've go to give them points for their dogged persistence.
I'm not going to repeat them, doubtless if you've been a part of this thread from inception, you probably just wish it'd go awy.
I hadn't read it before returning to the forum recently and got quite a few chuckles out of reading some of the views / interactions.
You see what I see...I'm not even sure I believe Pac had a hurt shoulder.
I had Mayweather winning clearly, although I note how incredibly reactive / responsive he was to Pac - he definitely believed he could be hurt (and badly) by Pacquiu.
I don't recall Mayweather being so 'reactive' in another fight's early rounds.
"Interesting ideas" is polite speak for the views of the Pac adherents that he (Pac) won...you've go to give them points for their dogged persistence.
I'm not going to repeat them, doubtless if you've been a part of this thread from inception, you probably just wish it'd go awy.
I hadn't read it before returning to the forum recently and got quite a few chuckles out of reading some of the views / interactions.
i am an early contributor to this thread, and spoon23 and other filipino guys go back years on this thread..
Spoon was struggling with the thread, then i and a few guys gave him a better title and he went with it..
Then, it got moved, to this section, and spoon23 blew some fuses, mentally, he felt there was an anti pac conspiracy... then ADPO got into it with Trav, about threshold limits of PEDS and Ped testing protocol..
it has been All the time, spoon is looking for support from Spain, Brazil, and other countries on who really won the fight..
Floyd Mayweather will go down in history as the best fighter of his generation.
It hurts a lot of fools in their pussy. But it is what it is.
They fought too late in their careers for that question to be answered. History will remember them as the two best fighters of their generation.
That's a great way to be remembered, but so many of their fans apparently can't be happy with it and move on. I guess that fact, and this whole crazy thread, illustrates why it's better to be a boxing fan than a boxer's fan boy.
They fought too late in their careers for that question to be answered. History will remember them as the two best fighters of their generation.
That's a great way to be remembered, but so many of their fans apparently can't be happy with it and move on. I guess that fact, and this whole crazy thread, illustrates why it's better to be a boxing fan than a boxer's fan boy.
Floyd smoked Juan Manuel Marquez with ease.
He also schooled Canelo who has gone on to be the face of the next generation.
Floyd was the best of his era. There's no doubt about it.
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