Sugar Ray Leonard VS Roberto Duran(P4P All Time Great)

[CarlosG815]

Take your ridiculous,ignorant views back to the hip hop forums with the rest of your kind.There really is nothing more embarrassing than reading some clueless newb attempting to offer his own argument in a topic that he has absolutely no idea about.



Your post count may go up,but your own understanding of this sport and it's history only diminishes in the eyes of those who actually know what the **** they're talking about.



Stick to "Money May" and "DA PACMAN" in future,and leave such discussions to the true fans of this sport.

If I recall correctly, Duran dominated Ray Leonard in the first fight, leaving him lost in the ring with no way to slow Duran down. Leonard said after that fight that Duran was the toughest guy he ever fought and punched like a man possessed by the devil.

He also admitted that for the rematch he took note of Duran's "inbetween fight" habits such as not training and eating poorly and putting on as much as 30-50 pounds. Duran took the fight on fairly short notice and was so exhausted from having to drop so much weight that he was outworked by the faster, better conditioned Leonard. IMO Leonard would not beat Duran when Duran is at his best at 135-147 and his poor habits inbetween fights set him at a disadvantage and that was not the best.

At 160 Duran had little KO power and that fight shouldn't be used to judge who is greater of the two.

[prinzemanspopa]

If I recall correctly.......

.....You claimed Muhammad Ali beat George Foreman in Zaire using "footwork".Yes, we already knew about that hilarious blunder.It's the primary reason why your opinion can never be taken seriously after that gaffe.




The problem with you,and all the other newbs that join in these type of discussions, is that you're so painfully ignorant on the topic in hand that it's almost humiliating to have to correct you.



Duran had already verbally agreed on a rematch with Leonard and his team three and a half months prior to their eventual rematch with Leonard.He was fit,in-shape,just five months removed from the single greatest win of career and still in his prime.




Leonard did beat the best version of Duran.....and did it more convincingly than Duran ever managed against him.Save the "dominated him" crap for the Duran apologists.

[JAB5239]

Leonard did beat the best version of Duran.....and did it more convincingly than Duran ever managed against him.Save the "dominated him" crap for the Duran apologists.

How was this the "best" version of Duran?

[CarlosG815]

How was this the "best" version of Duran?

The dude is a complete clown.

[BigStereotype]

How was this the "best" version of Duran?

I am fairly certain that there is no objective way that it could be argued. Leonard beat him fair and square, but Duran was NOT at his best for that fight.

[prinzemanspopa]

How was this the "best" version of Duran?

Duran was at no greater stage in his career than than he was going into the rematch with Leonard.He was regarded by virtually every credible source within the sport as the very best fighter on the planet.He hadn't been defeated in eight years,was coming off a career deining performance over what was then,and arguably still is,the greatest fighter he ever fought.He had shown absolutely no signs of slipping up and despite not scoring as many knockouts as he had in his lightweight days,still retained the type of power that commanded the respect of his opponents.



Duran was in his prime and the same fighter going into New Orleans as he was in Montreal.Rather than look at what Duran couldn't do,why not look at how Leonard adjusted and never even gave Duran a chance.Why not credit Leonard for the brilliant footwork that he showed rather than how slow and sluggish Duran looked(guess who made him look like that?).



There's a reason Duran wasn't capable of pulling off the type of performance that he had given in five months previous,and it wasn't because of an upset tummy.

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Duran was at no greater stage in his career than than he was going into the rematch with Leonard.He was regarded by virtually every credible source within the sport as the very best fighter on the planet.He hadn't been defeated in eight years,was coming off a career deining performance over what was then,and arguably still is,the greatest fighter he ever fought.He had shown absolutely no signs of slipping up and despite not scoring as many knockouts as he had in his lightweight days,still retained the type of power that commanded the respect of his opponents.



Duran was in his prime and the same fighter going into New Orleans as he was in Montreal.Rather than look at what Duran couldn't do,why not look at how Leonard adjusted and never even gave Duran a chance.Why not credit Leonard for the brilliant footwork that he showed rather than how slow and sluggish Duran looked(guess who made him look like that?).



There's a reason Duran wasn't capable of pulling off the type of performance that he had given in five months previous,and it wasn't because of an upset tummy.

Isn't it weird that not even Leonard claims that?

[CarlosG815]

Isn't it weird that not even Leonard claims that?

Exactly. Prinze shows once again why he's an idiot.

Skip to 1:25 Leonard himself backs up our story and once again poppa is speaking straight from his ass.

[prinzemanspopa]

Isn't it weird that not even Leonard claims that?

What's even more weird is how Ray Leonard suddenly became the sole authoritative opinion on this topic.Even more weird that Duran apologist would think that.Then again,it suits your own agenda,doesn't it?




Now before you unleash another witty response in my direction,do tell me: What reason would I have to believe Duran wasn't in his prime going into the rematch? Where in the three and a half months that Duran had to prepare did he "slip up"?



Quitters and frontrunners can be exposed in the harshest of manners....As Duran found out.

Exactly. Prinze shows once again why he's an idiot.

You never do learn,do you?


believe it or not,articles and sources of the actual time that we're talking about mean a hell of alot more than some retrospective documentary slanted in a quitters favour.




Now go ahead and tell us which rounds Ali danced his way to victory of George Foreman.

[CarlosG815]

What's even more weird is how Ray Leonard suddenly became the sole authoritative opinion on this topic.Even more weird that Duran apologist would think that.Then again,it suits your own agenda,doesn't it?




Now before you unleash another witty response in my direction,do tell me: What reason would I have to believe Duran wasn't in his prime going into the rematch? Where in the three and a half months that Duran had to prepare did he "slip up"?



Quitters and frontrunners can be exposed in the harshest of manners....As Duran found out.








You never do learn,do you?


believe it or not,articles and sources of the actual time that we're talking about mean a hell of alot more than some retrospective documentary slanted in a quitters favour.




Now go ahead and tell us which rounds Ali danced his way to victory of George Foreman.

For all the typing you do, there is no substance to anything in your posts.

Go ahead and tall us how Roberto was the same fighter in New Orleans as he was in Montreal. This time have some context in your post, not just a bunch of quips to try and hide that fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, while you try to sneak your point into one sentence.

You really are the worst kind of troll. Just make your point and STFU.