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    #11
    Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
    He didn't look so mean or accurate losing to Benn. He was wildly inaccurate. I love Manny and he was my favorite trainer in the ring and in the broadcasting booth. But McClellan had the piss beaten out of him and could not adapt. If he couldn't beat Benn I don't think he is beating many ATGs. We all know what a **** he was, but that is not the point of the thread. Personally, I am glad he was not an ATG, for I would hate for such a man to gain those priceless accolades.
    As I wholeheartedly agree with your view on his nature, my view on the Benn fight has a little twist. I admit that I haven't seen it since back then, but I clearly recall Benn punching McClellan to the back of the head multiple times. We all know that it's not only a foul but also dangerous. So my take is that McClellan became disorientated and hurt by those rabbit punches and that affected his performance in a big way.

    That's my take. I may be wrong particularly if Benn didn't connect with rabbit punches before late in the fight.
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      #12
      - - Not gonna talk about a guy I don't like who's been in a permanent 10 count. Didn't see many of his fights anyway.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

        IMO he edged James Toney when they fought.
        McClellan?

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          #14
          In the final section of , Steward sounds less sure about McClellan's chances against RJJ, basically defining it a 50/50 fight. Where does that segment you posted come from?
          Last edited by Tatabanya; 07-03-2023, 02:30 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

            IMO he edged James Toney when they fought.
            You are talking about Mike McCallum.
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              #16
              Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
              He didn't look so mean or accurate losing to Benn. He was wildly inaccurate. I love Manny and he was my favorite trainer in the ring and in the broadcasting booth. But McClellan had the piss beaten out of him and could not adapt. If he couldn't beat Benn I don't think he is beating many ATGs. We all know what a **** he was, but that is not the point of the thread. Personally, I am glad he was not an ATG, for I would hate for such a man to gain those priceless accolades.
              Sounds like a very British take there. No mention of McClellan beating the hell out of Benn as well and arguable knocking him out in the first round, and also knocking him down again late in the fight and being ahead on points untill the brain bleeding got too bad. Benn collapsed outside of the ring and his career was ruined after this fight.

              I agree he was becoming inaccurate, looking for the big KO which caused him to miss many shots and tire himself out. He was not head hunting though, and perhaps if he had stuck with the left hooks to the body he would have finished the fight.
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                #17
                Originally posted by Ivich View Post

                I hope Trump gets prison.
                If he does we will have another civil war and the American war machine won't be able to protect the World from China and Russia. Seriously. Not to mention the ******** body count here.

                We have become an indoctrinated society, both left and right. A nation full of extremists living in a constant state of denial.

                The right is holding the constant threat of violence over the government's head, (on January 6th we almost became a third world principate.)

                The very ****** left are dressing up like girls and insistenting they get to out-swim real girls for a meaningless amateur medals, which the media has then conviced the right, is somehow important.

                Meanwhile the right watches sycopath after sycopath, muder children, over and over again, and claims all we need is better mental health care, not less guns, to solve the problem. Then they vote down the healthcare.

                Right now if you run onto America bus and yell out "No Bozos on this bus" -- 2/3drs of the country would have to get off.

                About the cancer called Trump.

                We need Trump convicted and barred from office. DeSantis can then fill his place and satisfy, manipulate and control the hate on the right in a reasonable manner.

                This way maybe we can push back the violence long enough to give us space to try and work this out like adults. But each day my faith slips futher away.

                It is the American military, American war technology, American production capability of high technology, and a willingness to share that equipment with the free world, that keeps all our liberty safe.

                American war prowess is the glue of liberty around the World today. Take it away, preoccupy America with a civil war, and the World will slip into unchecked violence.

                Trump gets 'elected' he will be out first "prince" to rise to power via the threat of voilence. Our democracy is teetering.

                Trump gets elected he will cut off NATO support; he will cut off Ukrainian support and force Ukraine to take a settlemennt where Russia takes Eastern Ukraine into a new budding empire (a Russian 'victory') making ***** look good, and the right-wing media in America will call it a Trump victory. Trump will be the American Chamberlain, giving away other people's land for 'peace.'

                Trump's sees Vald Puten as a muse and ***** will be grateful to Trump.

                ***** calling Trump a great man, is what Trump really wants, and he will sell out America, and our liberty just to gain that phrase. Trump thinks dictators are great men; Trump thinks he is a great man.

                Trump will likely get convicted but never see the prison time. The Courts won't allow it and Rockin Robin, above and thousands like him will become violent. They have been indoctrinated to believe that protecting a third-world tin pot criminal dictator (like Trump wants to be,) is their new definition of 'liberty.'

                America is full of third-world chanting peasants and most of them are the White people, who are threatening us with violence everyday.

                We will never put Trump in prison

                Like with Russia and *****, what would be perfect is if he (Trump) would just do the world a big favor and die from natural causes, or a bolt of lighting, either would do just fine.

                P.S. I am sorry but I actually have to say this.

                Unbelievable! The 'bolt of lighting' is not longer viable. If that happens at least one of them (MT Greene, Georgia) will say it was a "***ish lazer from space." Really sir, I am not joking.

                My God I am so sad because this is not a joke, the ****** bitch from Georgia already put that in the Congressional record.

                My God I am so sad.
                Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-03-2023, 05:04 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
                  In the final section of , Steward sounds less sure about McClellan's chances against RJJ, basically defining it a 50/50 fight. Where does that segment you posted come from?
                  I found this on a Facebook group called mad about boxing.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

                    As I wholeheartedly agree with your view on his nature, my view on the Benn fight has a little twist. I admit that I haven't seen it since back then, but I clearly recall Benn punching McClellan to the back of the head multiple times. We all know that it's not only a foul but also dangerous. So my take is that McClellan became disorientated and hurt by those rabbit punches and that affected his performance in a big way.

                    That's my take. I may be wrong particularly if Benn didn't connect with rabbit punches before late in the fight.
                    I always thought it was the hard headbutts, but you're right, there were plenty of rabbit punches hard enough to contribute or do the job themselves. May be time to watch that fight again. I always enjoy watching the puppy killer get stomped and stomped good..
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      If he does we will have another civil war and the American war machine won't be able to protect the World from China and Russia. Seriously. Not to mention the ******** body count here.

                      We have become an indoctrinated society, both left and right. A nation full of extremists living in a constant state of denial.

                      The right is holding the constant threat of violence over the government's head, (on January 6th we almost became a third world principate.)

                      The very ****** left are dressing up like girls and insistenting they get to out-swim real girls for a meaningless amateur medals, which the media has then conviced the right, is somehow important.

                      Meanwhile the right watches sycopath after sycopath, muder children, over and over again, and claims all we need is better mental health care, not less guns, to solve the problem. Then they vote down the healthcare.

                      Right now if you run onto America bus and yell out "No Bozos on this bus" -- 2/3drs of the country would have to get off.

                      About the cancer called Trump.

                      We need Trump convicted and barred from office. DeSantis can then fill his place and satisfy, manipulate and control the hate on the right in a reasonable manner.

                      This way maybe we can push back the violence long enough to give us space to try and work this out like adults. But each day my faith slips futher away.

                      It is the American military, American war technology, American production capability of high technology, and a willingness to share that equipment with the free world, that keeps all our liberty safe.

                      American war prowess is the glue of liberty around the World today. Take it away, preoccupy America with a civil war and the Wold will slip into violence.

                      Trump gets 'elected' he will be out first "prince" to rise to power via the threat of voilence. Our democracy is teetering.

                      Trump gets elected he will cut off NATO support; he will cut off Ukrainian support and force Ukraine to take a settlemennt where Russia takes Eastern Ukraine into new budding empire (a Russian 'victory) making ***** look good, and the right-wing media in America will call it a Trump victory. Trump will be the American Chamberlain, giving away other people's land for 'peace.'

                      Trump's see Vald Puten as a muse and ***** will be grateful to Trump.

                      ***** calling Trump a great man, is what Trump really wants, and he will sell out America, and our liberty just to gain that phrase. Trump thinks dictators are great men; Trump thinks he is a great man.

                      Trump will likely get convicted but never see the prison time. The Courts won't allow it and Rockin Robin, above and thousand like him will become violent. They have been indoctrinated to believe that protecting a third-world tin pot criminal dictator leader like Trump is their new definition of 'liberty.'

                      America is full of third-wold chanting peasants and most of them are the White people, who are threatening us with violence everyday.

                      We will never put Trump in prison

                      Like with Russia and *****, what would be perfect is if he (Trump) would just do the world a big favor and die from natural causes, or a bolt of lighting, either would do just fine.

                      P.S. I am sorry but I actually have to say this.

                      Unbelievable! The 'bolt of lighting' is not longer viable. If that happens at least one of them (MT Greene, Georgia) will say it was "a ***ish lazer from space." Really sir, I am not joking.

                      My God I am so sad because this is not a joke, the ****** bitch from Georgia already put that in the Congressional record.

                      My God I am so sad.
                      Trump.De Santis. and Kennedy Jnr FFS. I thought we had it bad here in the UK!

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