Official 2020 Presidential Election Discussion Thread

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130,000 Ballots Delivered at 4am In Detroit, EVERY SINGLE BALLOT FOR *****!

WATCH: Ballot Count Watcher Describes At Least 130,000 Ballots ALL FOR ***** Arriving in Three Vehicles in Detroit in Dead of Night



A woman monitoring the ballot counting in Detroit has asserted that , all for Joe *****, were brought to the center in three vehicles at 4 a.m.

In the testimonial, originally posted to Facebook Live, the woman says that people who were there counting ballots throughout the evening were ready to shut down when suddenly a white van, a Chrysler 300 and a Ferarri, pulled up with over 130,000 additional ballots.

“As they started counting the ballots, he was astonished that every single ballot, literally 100 percent of 130,000 ballots, were all ***** ballots that hadn’t been delivered to the precinct before the cut off time,” she explained.

Part 2

— 🐇🐇🙉🙈🙊🦅Ivy (@Amberfiremusic)

“We literally have people that watched it happen,” she continued. “We have poll challengers that have been barred from being able to go into this room to challenge ballots. We’ve had GOP members removed from the room.”

She explained that there is a large disparity between ********s and **********s being allowed into the ballot counting room, ever since the mystery ballots showed up.

Part 4

— 🐇🐇🙉🙈🙊🦅Ivy (@Amberfiremusic)

The woman explained that the governor and Department of Health and Human Services claimed that the room was over capacity, and that is why they weren’t allowing the proper number of ********** watchers in — which are required to be allowed by law.

Additionally, she said that she has seen and heard about poll contesters that are being harassed and intimidated.

Part 6
— 🐇🐇🙉🙈🙊🦅Ivy (@Amberfiremusic)

“It’s really heartbreaking that this is what we have stooped to and allowed as a country,” she said. “It is disgusting what is happening in Detroit.”

“It’s about major fraud on a major scale… that was very well organized,” she added.

[ralex]

So obvious

[The Big Dunn]

If you’re Trump and Pelosi, you had a terrible election cycle.

If you’re ***** and McConnell, 2 guys with something like 75-80 years or experience in the Senate, you had a great cycle.

Kind of shows where the real power is.

[siablo14]

If you’re Trump and Pelosi, you had a terrible election cycle.

If you’re ***** and McConnell, 2 guys with something like 75-80 years or experience in the Senate, you had a great cycle.

Kind of shows where the real power is.

Nah. That aint so.
McConnell is benefiting from the support from Trumpers.

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Nevada USPS Worker Caught On Camera Admitting To Election Fraud Directed By His Boss!

BREAKING: Project Veritas: Nevada USPS Carrier Caught on Tape Pledging Voter Fraud to Remove President Trump From Office (VIDEO)



James O’Keefe strikes again!

Project Veritas on Thursday released undercover video of a Nevada USPS carrier pledging voter fraud to remove President Trump from office.

BREAKING: Nevada @USPS Carrier Caught On Tape Pledging Voter Fraud To Remove realDonaldTrump From Office

“I’m gonna see if I can get you some(ballots), like a nice little handful…”

“What’s your unit number? Let me see what I can do…”

— Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas)

Project Veritas Wednesday night released a detailing a directive from superiors to back-date late mail-in ballots as received November 3rd so they are accepted.

“Separate them from standard letter mail so they can hand stamp them with YESTERDAY’S DATE and put them through” – the whistleblower said.

James O’Keefe said, “Every single vote that was sent by mail should be subject to investigation. It is clear that the USPS cannot be trusted.”

[Eff Pandas]

Again, what I said was that whoever the losing party is, only one has been building and appears to be poised to cause havoc. One side, not both as you’re suggesting. I’m going by what every sane person can see happening on their computer or television screes, deluded Trump surrogates and supporters creating an alternate reality around our electoral process. I don’t expect the same out of the left as I do out of the Right, which is my point and you haven’t used or demonstrated how this would be accomplished by the Left.

You haven't been on Twitter lately I guess. A lot of the Woke mfers are as looney as the R folks you are talking about.

And idek wtf you are going on about building towards havoc. I think the overwhelming majority of folks on both sides aren't gonna do sh^t except go home & watch The Housewife's of Chattanooga whoever wins. It's not like this type of violence is planned out necessarily. If there is violence on the D side I suspect it'll be opportunistic violence like with the George Floyd protests that were overwhelmingly peaceful. But it'll still be violence never the less.

From my vantage point, I see one side building to absolute hysteria to the point our most sacred traditions are meaningless to them. When you make a comparison, please be kind enough to back it up, because all we’re doing is meaningless back and forth with only me providing any links or basis for what I believe.

Again you must not be on Twitter where anti-white dog whistling is on par with Trumptards anti-non-white dog whistling or heard of antifa.

Idk why tf I'm linking you to common knowledge sh^t for. Go read some woke mfers on Twitter for a week or two or Google antifa.

From what I’m been reading it appears as if some people are simply content with making assertions and assuming that they are true. Since I think critically and ask for supporting evidence I’m not one of those people.

I see what's the temperature of people. Sometimes critical thinking is ************ when the anger & fear of folks are so obvious. Sometimes critical thinking doesn't see the obvious & only becomes helpful in hindsight.

You have to understand, many ********s expected a moral repudiation to Trumpism, and as the night progressed it was clear that wasn’t going to happen.

The killing of Trumpism is a whole extra level up the win ladder & ***** losing is probably at as much risk now then it ever was on election day which was what you suggested folks were freaked out about or whatever.

The size of the win in a Presential election is actually all-important because it lets the incoming President know if he has some sort of mandate to govern.

Well yea. But that's a whole other luxury.

Again, you have to have a reasonable rationale and many legal experts are seeing little to nothing Trump's legal team can move on. Simply because a race is close or you feel like there might be voter fraud is not a reasonable basis to launch a lawsuit. You haven’t laid anything out here as well, that’s where Trump is right now and why he’s watching Fox News and raging like a brain-damaged infant.

Again...you must not know about the Bush vs Gore election. This sh^t can go sideways EASY. And when it's as close as it is not a when lot needs to go sideways.

To be fair I don't expect things to go sideways legally, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it did is my main stance.

I think it's naive to think it can't even if it's not probable.

Yes, I have watched the news this year but I’m the only one that was paying attention apparently. The looting and fires are not legitimate protestors and there were even instances of people trying to tarnish these protests by deliberately starting fires etc. Also, those demonstrations were taken by Fox News and Conservative media outlets and hyped beyond what they were. That’s what the Right loves to do, scare itself with imaginary threats and to delude themselves into thinking the Left is as terrible as they are

Did you poll the looters?

I've seen non-FoxNews folks saying the damage was over a billion dollars. That seems pretty substantial to me.

The vandals were in the minority and did not represent what the protests were all about, but see, that’s what people on the Right love to do, distract away from the real problem to create a fantasy one. Police brutality and institutional racism are the problems, not *** or Antifa.

I didn't say they were the majority. I actually went outta my way to say they weren't the majority.

Idk how that's relevant to my point about violence going down. If it's 10,000 folks or 100 folks it's violence & destruction that went down.

Like I keep saying, one side is predominately responsible for the mayhem, indeed, the DHS Secretary explains this, and the head of the FBI makes it clear that *** isn’t a group, etc. This isn’t to ignore what does happen on the Left, my point was and is, there’s nothing happening on the Left like what’s going on, on the Right.

Pleas for social redress in the form of protests are not the same as carrying guns to polling stations to intimidate the count.

Violence is violence in my book. It being organized or not has relevance, but not to what I'm speaking of.

Let's revisit this if ***** actually loses somehow cuz we are never going to agree with how you are trying to twist things to your take on my take. Bottom line is this is all speculation on the D side of things as it's looking currently so I can't be proved right or wrong unless Trump pulls victory from the jaws of defeat.

[GrandmasterWang]

Come on man, set aside the partisan BS and just be a real dude.

I didn’t say anything like that. Neither one of us know what happened. Instead of trafficking in conspiracy let’s talk about how we got here.

The ********** Governor of Georgia knew the black vote was increasing from when he ran for office. He knew there would be increased number of voters.

Instead of putting things in place to make it easier to collect and count he did just the opposite. Why are you blaming that on Dems?

In Pennsylvania, the ********** legislature made it a rule that they couldn’t start counting until late Tuesday. How do you blame Dems for that?

Only Fox has called Arizona. It was called before every vote was counted as has been the case in other states.

Now I agree Arizona is usually ********** but if you look at the senate election ( Kelly is killing mcsally, who was aligned with Trump)and study the voting patterns of the last 8 years this isn’t such a stretch

I asked you to see what you thought as an individual. That assumes you don’t have a hive mentality.

If you’re mad, which you should be, you know exactly who you should be mad at. It seems though that you won’t fully express that anger toward **********s because you want Trump to win.

I just honestly want to know if Trump winning is worth this. I can’t get any Trump supporter to give a straight answer.

I am supporting Trump in this election but am not a Trump supporter overall.

There has been obvious fraud in places like Michigan in support of the ********s.

I agree it makes the USA look like a joke.

Trump makes valid points but he's like the Boy who cried wolf in that his past history of flagrant BS works against him here.

Arizona i think legitimately turned blue in a large part due to the McCain factor and Trump's disrespect.

Like you day the **********s opened themselves up for this by gaming the system by not allowing mail votes counted early.

In a way it's their own fault that they are being cheated now.

"Instead of putting things in place to make it easier to collect and count he did just the opposite. Why are you blaming that on Dems?

In Pennsylvania, the ********** legislature made it a rule that they couldn’t start counting until late Tuesday. How do you blame Dems for that?"

These above are both **********s fault I agree 100% with you.

Doesn't excuse the Dem Vote fraud going on though but it is what it is.

Both sides dirty af

[Mooshashi]

From the NY POST...which SUPPORTED TRUMP AND RECOMMENDED VOTING FOR HIM:

WASHINGTON — President Trump repeated his unfounded claim that political foes were trying to steal the election from him during a briefing on Thursday evening as he trailed his opponent and remaining swing states were leaning toward a Joe ***** presidency.

“This is a case where they’re trying to steal an election, they’re trying to rig an election, and we can’t let that happen,” the commander in chief said from the White House Briefing Room, offering no evidence to back up the claims and vowing to take the matter to the Supreme Court.

The votes currently being tabulated are legal mail-in ballots but the president claimed without evidence that the system was “corrupt” and again suggested ********s were producing fake ballots to oust him.

At various points throughout the campaign, Trump himself encouraged supporters in states like Florida to use mail voting, calling it “safe and secure.”

Illinois GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger called Trump’s claims “insane.”

“We want every vote counted, yes every legal vote (of course). But, if you have legit concerns about fraud present EVIDENCE and take it to court. STOP Spreading debunked misinformation… This is getting insane,” he tweeted during the briefing.

And even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday said that while “it’s not unusual for people to claim they’ve won the election … claiming you win the election is different from finishing the counting. And what we’re going to see here in the next few days, both in the Senate races and in the presidential race, is each state will ultimately get to a final outcome.”

When the Louisville Courier Journal asked if McConnell thinks it’s appropriate for the courts to halt counting of votes, McConnell noted it depends on state law.

[Furn]

What exactly is the mechanism for this alleged fraud ?

If dead people are voting or people are voting twice that's going to be pretty easy to pick up down the line when all this close states are recounted.

So what exactly are they doing and how will they get away with it
or think that they will ?

[GhostofDempsey]

From the NY POST...which SUPPORTED TRUMP AND RECOMMENDED VOTING FOR HIM:

WASHINGTON — President Trump repeated his unfounded claim that political foes were trying to steal the election from him during a briefing on Thursday evening as he trailed his opponent and remaining swing states were leaning toward a Joe ***** presidency.

“This is a case where they’re trying to steal an election, they’re trying to rig an election, and we can’t let that happen,” the commander in chief said from the White House Briefing Room, offering no evidence to back up the claims and vowing to take the matter to the Supreme Court.

The votes currently being tabulated are legal mail-in ballots but the president claimed without evidence that the system was “corrupt” and again suggested ********s were producing fake ballots to oust him.

At various points throughout the campaign, Trump himself encouraged supporters in states like Florida to use mail voting, calling it “safe and secure.”

Illinois GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger called Trump’s claims “insane.”

“We want every vote counted, yes every legal vote (of course). But, if you have legit concerns about fraud present EVIDENCE and take it to court. STOP Spreading debunked misinformation… This is getting insane,” he tweeted during the briefing.

And even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday said that while “it’s not unusual for people to claim they’ve won the election … claiming you win the election is different from finishing the counting. And what we’re going to see here in the next few days, both in the Senate races and in the presidential race, is each state will ultimately get to a final outcome.”

When the Louisville Courier Journal asked if McConnell thinks it’s appropriate for the courts to halt counting of votes, McConnell noted it depends on state law.

That article is written by a ******* Aussie who can be seen here laughing at an Indian journalists accent. She also worked for Al Jazeera.

— Damon imani🔅 (@damonimani)