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Max Kellerman: Manny Pacquiao has a case for the best pound-for-pound fighter ever
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostMayweather has more better/high-level wins than Pacquiao
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Mayweather did not lose to MULTIPLE fighters, some by KO
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Mayweather beat Pacquiao
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NO, it has nothing to do with size..... Mayweather and Pacquiao were both established welters when they fought..... Pac could never solve the Marquez puzzle, losing every fight according to some observers..... but Mayweather schooled Marquez easily
Mayweather > Pacquiao..... not even close
Armstrong had a lot more losses than Pac. Does that make Pac greater automatically ?
Pernell Whitaker was greater than Floyd imo.
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostSugar Ray was given credit for being a 5-time middle champion.
Ali being the first heavyweight champion to win the title 3 times.
Floyd Patterson being the first heavyweight to regain the title .
Pac had huge KO wins as an underdog .
Floyd ?
NOBODY thinks that Leonard was a genuine LHW champ
NOBODY
once again, when you need to give a guy credit for winning anonymous paper titles, rather than mention names..... you know that you lost
Leonard was already great at that point, there is no need to fluff up his glittering career with sillyness like everyone does with Pac..... when I explain to you why Leonard is greater than Pacquiao, I do NOT need to mention Donny Lalonde..... like you need to mention Margarito LMAO
SRL gets the SAME credit that Ward got for beating Dawson under the SAME circumstances..... so, how is it possible to claim that SRL is a god, for achieving the SAME thing that Ward achieved when he beat Dawson..... Dawson is not even regarded as one of Ward's best wins, and neither is Lalonde for Leonard
Leonard's resume CAN stand on it's own merits, without the Lalonde sillyness..... Pacquiao's resume cannot stand on it's own merits..... WHICH IS WHY YOU GUYS INSIST ON INCLUDING PAPER ACHIEVEMENTS LIKE MULTI-DIVISIONS..... despite the fact that there are fighters who are greater than Pacquiao who only ever fought in 1 division
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostNOBODY thinks that Leonard was a genuine LHW champ
NOBODY
once again, when you need to give a guy credit for winning anonymous paper titles, rather than mention names..... you know that you lost
Leonard was already great at that point, there is no need to fluff up his glittering career with sillyness like everyone does with Pac..... when I explain to you why Leonard is greater than Pacquiao, I do NOT need to mention Donny Lalonde..... like you need to mention Margarito LMAO
SRL gets the SAME credit that Ward got for beating Dawson under the SAME circumstances..... so, how is it possible to claim that SRL is a god, for achieving the SAME thing that Ward achieved when he beat Dawson..... Dawson is not even regarded as one of Ward's best wins, and neither is Lalonde for Leonard
Leonard's resume CAN stand on it's own merits, without the Lalonde sillyness..... Pacquiao's resume cannot stand on it's own merits..... WHICH IS WHY YOU GUYS INSIST ON INCLUDING PAPER ACHIEVEMENTS LIKE MULTI-DIVISIONS..... despite the fact that there are fighters who are greater than Pacquiao who only ever fought in 1 division
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Kellerman is a **** riding fanboy. Pac lost decisively to both of his chief rivals. Pac has been knocked out cold multiple times. Mother****a even took an L to Jeff Horn. All that disqualifies for him from being number one. Try and inflate has resume with all these arbitrary achievements (8 weight champion lmao), it doesn't change reality.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostNOBODY thinks that Leonard was a genuine LHW champ
NOBODY
once again, when you need to give a guy credit for winning anonymous paper titles, rather than mention names..... you know that you lost
Leonard was already great at that point, there is no need to fluff up his glittering career with sillyness like everyone does with Pac..... when I explain to you why Leonard is greater than Pacquiao, I do NOT need to mention Donny Lalonde..... like you need to mention Margarito LMAO
SRL gets the SAME credit that Ward got for beating Dawson under the SAME circumstances..... so, how is it possible to claim that SRL is a god, for achieving the SAME thing that Ward achieved when he beat Dawson..... Dawson is not even regarded as one of Ward's best wins, and neither is Lalonde for Leonard
Leonard's resume CAN stand on it's own merits, without the Lalonde sillyness..... Pacquiao's resume cannot stand on it's own merits..... WHICH IS WHY YOU GUYS INSIST ON INCLUDING PAPER ACHIEVEMENTS LIKE MULTI-DIVISIONS..... despite the fact that there are fighters who are greater than Pacquiao who only ever fought in 1 division
Sugar Ray Leonard was a 5-time middleweight champion???
Dude, when we say Sugar Ray, it's Sugar Ray Robinson.
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Originally posted by pasawayako View PostI think he's already the best lb4lb of all time after the margarito fight. No one came close to pac achievements.
Do you not think Floyd is a good fighter at all and etc? Or do you think he's a great fighter that just so happened to Duck Pacquiao in the beginning?
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostExcept Pac is the only human ever to win a lineal title at 112 and won welterweight titles.
Armstrong had a lot more losses than Pac. Does that make Pac greater automatically ?
Pernell Whitaker was greater than Floyd imo.
he is also the only human to kill a super-fight by refusing random blood tests..... as he skipped through THREE divisions in 9 months..... gaining 12 lbs of muscle..... and DOUBLING his punch output..... at 30yo
Whitaker was greater than Pacquiao imo
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Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View PostKellerman is a **** riding fanboy. Pac lost decisively to both of his chief rivals. Pac has been knocked out cold multiple times. Mother****a even took an L to Jeff Horn. All that disqualifies for him from being number one. Try and inflate has resume with all these arbitrary achievements (8 weight champion lmao), it doesn't change reality.
Another triggered one.
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I don't know about ever but at least he is the best pound for pound fighter of his time. He has won more World titles in several weight divisions than any other fighter of the past fifteen years; Six to be exact.
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