Canelo will beat the hell out of GGG

[dan_cov]

Canelo by decision but can't rule a stoppage out, GGG has zero defense.

This will be some Garcia vs Matthysse type **** then everyone will say Canelo waited for him to get old or something.

[Aztekkas]

Chepo throws the towel in. Around 9/10



Golovkin will touch Canelo, especially when Canelo fades

Yup, like he has faded the last few fights. He will also come weight drained for the weight in but at around 220(give or take a pound or two) on fight night.

Taco eating, burrito scarfing, border hoping, tiempo! Yelling, etc etc..

We know, we know.

[John Locke]

Good breakdown, not often you see real boxing discussion on here anymore

I disagree with you about the outcome of the fight though. Here's how I see it, Canelo has a clear advantage over Golovkin in handspeed, defence and inside fighting, Golovkin is the better fighter at range because of his great jab, so Canelo won't get the better of Golovkin unless he gets inside and to do that, he would have to be the aggressor, which doesn't suit him.

Canelo is usually at his best against aggressive fighters, with this fight being the exception. Golovkin will be the aggressor but he's not gonna get too close to Canelo, he's gonna be looking to keep him on the end of his punches. No doubt there will be stages in the fight where they're fighting in the pocket and that's where I think Canelo will have his success, but for the most part, I think Golovkin will stay at a comfortable range and control the distance, while being on the front foot.

I usually wouldn't pick a fighter without good legs to beat Canelo, beating flat-footed guys is Canelo's bread and butter, but like I said, this one is the exception.

[Buckfever]

Canelo isn't ****** enough to fight him and Oscar isn't ****** enough to let him. Even though Canelo is a much better fighter he doesn't have a chance. Golovkin won't be reckless against Canelo and he will slowly beat the schit out of him.

You need a guy that is not only a much better fighter, but someone that Golovkin can't just go in there and beat up.

Ward is the only guy.

[The Viper]

This is what is going to happen Canelo is going to beat his overrated a55 and you'll do what you's did before when Marquez iced Manny then you was suddenly a Donaire fan until he got embarrassed by Rigo then GGG came along and you'll leap onto the Lomachenko train or something.

Its like I said in the Donaire vs Rigo build up. Whatever HBO tells boxing fans is what they run with they don't know anything about styles and just echo what they hear as long as its what they want to hear.

What is Golovkin truthfully? He's a puncher with limited skills.
Very good jab, excellent at cutting a ring off, great power, at least a decent chin. Sometimes in boxing you only need to do a few things well and it can take you to the top.

He's excellent at cutting a ring off I won't deny that but what does he do once he's cut the exit off? He walks straight in and doesn't move his head.
Its not he wants a Street fight or lets opponents hit him he has flaws.
He walks straight in, doesn't move his head and a straight will always get to the target before a wide ass hook does.

He's disgustingly overrated in terms of skillset. What he can and can't do, period.
What he is is an extremely effective fighter. One dimensional with 2 gears.

He doesn't move his head or step off or around. He often drops his opposing hands when throwing never finishing any particular combination with anything other than a livershot. He's predictable. His punch selection is predictable.

He is hunched over and wide open for anything down the middle with his come forward style the uppercuts a great weapon but its actually a set up punch & Brook is the only guy he's fought to put something behind it because these other guys have been terrified.
He doesn't throw with you (1 in a million shot vs bummy Geale) and he freezes when you put more than 2 punches together and often pulls straight back with his hands low.

He's stronger, he hits harder he has slightly faster feet & cuts a ring off better. They are his only advantages.

Canelo has the faster hands, better combinations, better counterpuncher. Vastly superior defense and he is flat out the better inside fighter he's superior at mid range as well. Its not debatable Idc how many pundits, fans, boxers, trainers claim otherwise I have two eyes. I can see it clear as day.

GGG has a punchers chance, that is all.
Canelo will light him the **** up in the pocket. He will tool him. He will purposely fight off the ropes like he did last night. Smith wasn't backing anybody up or cutting a ring off. Canelo purposely went to the ropes.
He will roll, slip those big telegraphed hooks and counter the living **** out the guy with blistering combinations to head and body and this one dimensional hypejob ain't gonna have a clue what day of the week it is.
He is made for Canelo!

He'll go a different path he won't even fight Saunders, he'll fight the weak link in Jacobs as usual.
He probably beats BJS but they don't really want none of that southpaw slickness. Don't want anybody who calls their bluff and isn't petrified of him.


Big drama show only the mother****er wants no real drama

Dancov, I usually roll with you man but i think your wrong on this one......canelo will get hurt in this fight man multiple times...hell he hurt brook almost immediately........

[The Viper]

Good breakdown, not often you see real boxing discussion on here anymore

I disagree with you about the outcome of the fight though. Here's how I see it, Canelo has a clear advantage over Golovkin in handspeed, defence and inside fighting, Golovkin is the better fighter at range because of his great jab, so Canelo won't get the better of Golovkin unless he gets inside and to do that, he would have to be the aggressor, which doesn't suit him.

Canelo is usually at his best against aggressive fighters, with this fight being the exception. Golovkin will be the aggressor but he's not gonna get too close to Canelo, he's gonna be looking to keep him on the end of his punches. No doubt there will be stages in the fight where they're fighting in the pocket and that's where I think Canelo will have his success, but for the most part, I think Golovkin will stay at a comfortable range and control the distance, while being on the front foot.

I usually wouldn't pick a fighter without good legs to beat Canelo, beating flat-footed guys is Canelo's bread and butter, but like I said, this one is the exception.

This........

[!! Shawn]

This is what is going to happen Canelo is going to beat his overrated a55 and you'll do what you's did before when Marquez iced Manny then you was suddenly a Donaire fan until he got embarrassed by Rigo then GGG came along and you'll leap onto the Lomachenko train or something.

Its like I said in the Donaire vs Rigo build up. Whatever HBO tells boxing fans is what they run with they don't know anything about styles and just echo what they hear as long as its what they want to hear.

What is Golovkin truthfully? He's a puncher with limited skills.
Very good jab, excellent at cutting a ring off, great power, at least a decent chin. Sometimes in boxing you only need to do a few things well and it can take you to the top.

He's excellent at cutting a ring off I won't deny that but what does he do once he's cut the exit off? He walks straight in and doesn't move his head.
Its not he wants a Street fight or lets opponents hit him he has flaws.
He walks straight in, doesn't move his head and a straight will always get to the target before a wide ass hook does.

He's disgustingly overrated in terms of skillset. What he can and can't do, period.
What he is is an extremely effective fighter. One dimensional with 2 gears.

He doesn't move his head or step off or around. He often drops his opposing hands when throwing never finishing any particular combination with anything other than a livershot. He's predictable. His punch selection is predictable.

He is hunched over and wide open for anything down the middle with his come forward style the uppercuts a great weapon but its actually a set up punch & Brook is the only guy he's fought to put something behind it because these other guys have been terrified.
He doesn't throw with you (1 in a million shot vs bummy Geale) and he freezes when you put more than 2 punches together and often pulls straight back with his hands low.

He's stronger, he hits harder he has slightly faster feet & cuts a ring off better. They are his only advantages.

Canelo has the faster hands, better combinations, better counterpuncher. Vastly superior defense and he is flat out the better inside fighter he's superior at mid range as well. Its not debatable Idc how many pundits, fans, boxers, trainers claim otherwise I have two eyes. I can see it clear as day.

GGG has a punchers chance, that is all.
Canelo will light him the **** up in the pocket. He will tool him. He will purposely fight off the ropes like he did last night. Smith wasn't backing anybody up or cutting a ring off. Canelo purposely went to the ropes.
He will roll, slip those big telegraphed hooks and counter the living **** out the guy with blistering combinations to head and body and this one dimensional hypejob ain't gonna have a clue what day of the week it is.
He is made for Canelo!

He'll go a different path he won't even fight Saunders, he'll fight the weak link in Jacobs as usual.
He probably beats BJS but they don't really want none of that southpaw slickness. Don't want anybody who calls their bluff and isn't petrified of him.


Big drama show only the mother****er wants no real drama

Canelo has cement feet, and is easy to put on the ropes, and has trouble mixing offense and defense, outside of rote memorized combinations. He lacks fluidity and adaptability in his methods of attack, and is vulnerable to people punching with him. Canelo is easy to freeze with feints, and only punches in spurts. He also has stamina problems.

Nobody is going to beat GGG standing infront of him, especially with their back against the ropes.

He just hits too hard. Its the kind of hard the hurts even when you block it, and he digs to the body consistently, and usually works behind one of the stiffest jabs you will find.

His offense is versatile and he has great timing as well. His defense is underrated. He does move his head, He does punch with you. He is selective about when and where he will do so, to give you a false sense that you can touch him, making you create openings for him to get in his shots.

[Jubei]

I am up for real bets if anyone wants to bet on Canelo. I got GGG by destruction. When odds for this fight get released you will see how people who do this for a living assess the fight. I think GGG will be a 4:1/5:1 favorite and that only because the fight will be in Texas where they might pull every stunt to protect Canelo, otherwise this would be 8:1.

[dan_cov]

Canelo is a lot more sturdier than Brook IMO the kid has a neck like a pitbull and he also may get hit a touch more but he is harder to hit clean. He's ******ly difficult to catch clean. He rolls and slips shots beautifully and he counters off of them.

If Brook perhaps whilst it would of left him more vulnerable to big shots neglected one thing it was to go to the body. He did maybe once.
Canelo is a vicious bodypuncher.

I've never really seen GGG display that except against LeMule & I think if a fighter is getting beaten so badly by just a jab alone it shows they're not world level. Not once did he slip the jab or try catch & return his own or counter it with either a right over the top or the uppercut. Canelo can and would do all those things and its where he excels.
Granted he had a difficult time doing so against Khan but hes way more mobile and has 10 times the handspeed of GGG who IMO is slow.


I think this is a pretty one sided fight. I just do not see this come forward, slow as hell, predictable puncher having much success outside of landing something huge.

Also Canelo's jab whilst he doesn't use it as much as he probably should he has a very underrated jab himself.

[PeasantCrusha]

I give Canelo a chance but I don't like how he fades and against GGG that is not a good thing.


GGG in all honesty, could have a Lacy/Matthysse moment. Invincible becomes human against the right opponent. Could that moment come against Canelo? It's doubtful but then again, I dont count Nelo out 100%.