Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Burt Saxby]

Well he did exactly that mate, unless your calling both the doctors and his boxing record liars now. Recovery from a severe hyperglycaemic episode to athletic prowess can take only days, this isn't unusual at all!

No , im not. Im calling you a liar. Wlad himself gives Brewster credit for the win and said he beat him fair and square. Are you calling Wlad a liar?

But the opposite was true, Wlad barely got hit and he beat the hell out of Brewster. Punches don't cause diabetic comas, the reasons behind the incident remain controversial. Steroids.. Poisoning, Overtraining etc. One thing remains clear.. That it occurred.

Well you didn't see the fight in that case. Wlad got hit plenty. His face was bust up and bloodied at the end. Brewster didn't just hit him. He hit him with bombs. BOMBS.
Brewster landed a high % of power shots onto Wlad and its documented through compubox.

Sam Peter was a 240lb slab of muscle with a cast iron chin and elite punch and applies enormous pressure with an excellent record! Having a good fight with a guy like that, and still prevailing, is testament to the quality of Klitschko, not against it!

240lb of useless slow plodding fat wasn't good enough to beat an old and overweight Middle weight first time out.
James Toney did better against Peter then Wlad did. Eddie Chambers had less trouble with Peter than Wlad did. Peteer was one of RoberT Helenius' easiest knock out victories.
But Peter banjo'd Wlad around the ring the ring and put him into survival mode.
As I said , if he had stamina to move beyond slow motion , he would have beat Wlad.
Theses things happened because Wlad just isn't that good.

Samuel Peter has gone the distance before.. And WON, plenty of times!!

Peter gassed out after 4 rounds against almost everybody.

It is only against Wladimir Klitschko he gassed, because Wladimir used his jab, height and strength to wear Peter down, as he is supposed to do!

Same as Brewster used pressure and a head and body attack to wear Wlad down. Just like Purrity had done before him.

Claiming Klitschko is not very good is unbelievable!

Possibly the best H2H boxer of all time and definitely the best resume by far now of any HW boxer... The guys has beaten the most diverse range of opponents of any fighter.. And outclassed nearly the lot of them.. And knocked most of them out.

Best h2h boxer in Europe where the rules of boxing don't apply does not count.
H2H he wasn't good enough to beat Sanders so how can he be the best of all time.
Sanders has gone down in history as a better h2h fighter than Wlad and Sanders isn't better than Nate Tubbs.
Which means Tubbs ranks higher h2h than Wlad.
Not that hard to believe really when you see how he couldn't even hurt the in-experienced Jennings when NY took his illegal holds and head locks away.
As HWs go Wlad rates around 5/10

If a guy like Brewster beats him half to death - as you put it , he has no business being mentioned along side the greats.

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Jesus christ Burt, you're so narrow-minded.

Boxers get better with time, it's a fact. Wlad is not the same fighter he was against Sanders.

Wlad has defeated so many people later in his career, undefeated opponents too left and right.

You can hate him all you want, but he's still one of the best HW boxers of ALL time.

[LoadedWraps]

Jesus christ Burt, you're so narrow-minded.

Boxers get better with time, it's a fact. Wlad is not the same fighter he was against Sanders.

Wlad has defeated so many people later in his career, undefeated opponents too left and right.

You can hate him all you want, but he's still one of the best HW boxers of ALL time.

And Fury is a young lion coming up and basically unstoppable. Wlad will have no answer for his stiff jabs and lighting fast combinations.

[Jewish-Reptile]

And Fury is a young lion coming up and basically unstoppable. Wlad will have no answer for his stiff jabs and lighting fast combinations.

You believe Wlad will follow Fury around the ring face like Chisora and Hammer ?

Say Wlad drops Fury in the first round with his indisputable power at the weight and Fury is chasing the fight from the off, he has to set a pace whereby he is out working the champion whilst trying to avoid big shots that would result in a knock down or stoppage, do you believe Fury has the discipline and composure to get back into the fight without cheating, ie rough house tactics, leading with the fore arm, excessive clinching, all the previous tricks we have seen Fury use whilst challenging the rules and receiving multiple warnings and point deductions ?

I imagine a scenario wherein their is no first round knockdown but the same scenario unfolding as each round slips away from Fury as he reverts into his shell trying not to unfold like every other Klitschko opponent in recent years. The likelihood of knockdowns is a very real prospect due to Fury's susceptibility to big shots and chronic lack of experience against world class opposition, powerful punchers and guys his own size, Wlad is all three of those. Take into account Wlad hasn't been dropped by harder more powerful opposition in how many years ? And I believe as most do you have a pretty one sided epic best down on hand come late summer.

This defence is one of the fights I have been most excited for some time due to the fact Fury is so cumbersome and such a big target which will result in him being easier to tag than the more elusive smaller fluid opposition Wlad has faced like Jennings and Haye.

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You'll all see.

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You believe Wlad will follow Fury around the ring face like Chisora and Hammer ?

Say Wlad drops Fury in the first round with his indisputable power at the weight and Fury is chasing the fight from the off, he has to set a pace whereby he is out working the champion whilst trying to avoid big shots that would result in a knock down or stoppage, do you believe Fury has the discipline and composure to get back into the fight without cheating, ie rough house tactics, leading with the fore arm, excessive clinching, all the previous tricks we have seen Fury use whilst challenging the rules and receiving multiple warnings and point deductions ?

I imagine a scenario wherein their is no first round knockdown but the same scenario unfolding as each round slips away from Fury as he reverts into his shell trying not to unfold like every other Klitschko opponent in recent years. The likelihood of knockdowns is a very real prospect due to Fury's susceptibility to big shots and chronic lack of experience against world class opposition, powerful punchers and guys his own size, Wlad is all three of those. Take into account Wlad hasn't been dropped by harder more powerful opposition in how many years ? And I believe as most do you have a pretty one sided epic best down on hand come late summer.

This defence is one of the fights I have been most excited for some time due to the fact Fury is so cumbersome and such a big target which will result in him being easier to tag than the more elusive smaller fluid opposition Wlad has faced like Jennings and Haye.

Bingo. Wlad himself said it's easier to fight bigger opponents... I like Fury, he's a funny guy.. but he's going to get his first loss against Wlad

[LoadedWraps]

Bingo. Wlad himself said it's easier to fight bigger opponents... I like Fury, he's a funny guy.. but he's going to get his first loss against Wlad

Wlad would be in a world of hurt when he steps in the ring with Fury. Tyson is literally a stylistic nightmare for him.

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Wlad would be in a world of hurt when he steps in the ring with Fury. Tyson is literally a stylistic nightmare for him.

Quit it, my ribs are hurting

[Elroy1]

Quit it, my ribs are hurting

Second that.. I like Fury and think he's good but that was a bit rich LOL

As for Mr. Saxby, don't call him Burt, he likes to be called by his original name...

JAB5329

[LoadedWraps]

Second that.. I like Fury and think he's good but that was a bit rich LOL

As for Mr. Saxby, don't call him Burt, he likes to be called by his original name...

JAB5329