After studying Pacquiao's welterweight fights, my conclusion is he doesn't have Power

[Left Hook Tua]

At 147 years, he knocked down Marquez and knocked out Victor Ortiz, Pacman has no legit knock out at 147.

agreed.

pac has never knock down jmm or koed a guy with his hands down.

[NearHypnos]

At welter Pacquiao has fought:

Cotto
Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez
Bradley
Marquez
Rios

How have those fighters that have you named done against these fighters? Have they dropped them or KOed?

How many times in these fighters careers have then been dropped or KOed and what were the circumstances around it?

Clottey dropped and lost to Cotto.

Cotto stopped by Marg.

Marg stopped by Shane, and pac use what Roach considers questionable wraps (hence him not letting Cotto do it)

Shane stopped by Mundine (cringe) and seriously dude wtf. Shane looked lost vs f ucking MORA!!!! He looked like he needed life alert with his old self. Why even put him on the list?

Marquez dropped by Katsidis (HARD), Pac, Floyd (lost to Floyd)

Rios lost to Alvarado who had him in much more trouble.... At 140.

Bradley stayed on his feet and was never in trouble despite broken ankles.

Honetly, I don't mean to defend Hec(lol) at all but what he says about what the fighters have said is true. Pac isnt top 5 in welter for power. He does have good pop but its mostly accumulation...

If you want to talk circumstances, almost every fighter mentioned in those big losses up there Pac fought them right after terrible losses. :/.... Love me some pac buut.. Even I cant deny that s hit

[AVDB]

Easy, Maidana, Ortiz, Thurman, Guerrero, Marquez (he knocked Pac out cold with one punch), Soto Karass, Andre Berto, Shawn Porter, Devon Alexander just to name a few.

So every ww except Paulie? Lol

Bradley ain't on your list. At least you had some sense there

[D4thincarnation]

Clottey dropped and lost to Cotto.

Cotto stopped by Marg.

Marg stopped by Shane, and pac use what Roach considers questionable wraps (hence him not letting Cotto do it)

Shane stopped by Mundine (cringe) and seriously dude wtf. Shane looked lost vs f ucking MORA!!!! He looked like he needed life alert with his old self. Why even put him on the list?

Marquez dropped by Katsidis (HARD), Pac, Floyd (lost to Floyd)

Rios lost to Alvarado who had him in much more trouble.... At 140.

Bradley stayed on his feet and was never in trouble despite broken ankles.

Honetly, I don't mean to defend Hec(lol) at all but what he says about what the fighters have said is true. Pac isnt top 5 in welter for power. He does have good pop but its mostly accumulation...

Clottey got was drop by a stiff jab that caught him off balance was nothing hurt by the punch. Clottey not stopped by no one

Shane did stop Marg, with a shed load of power shots, and Mosley is a massive puncher at welter. Cotto only stopped Marg because of his dodgy eye which Pacquiao done to him.

Marquz did get dropped by Kats and by Floyd, but Pacquiao has put the guy down 5 times Marquez not stopped by no one.

Shane was stopped because of his back injury against Mundane, way past his best as well and not at welter, and only Forrest had put him down before.


Bradley never stopped in his career, though Prov was very very close.

And Rios another one never stopped.


Why do you think so many fighters cover up in their shells or run and just try and survive when fighting Pacquiao?

[AVDB]

DAvid Diaz its not he speed that pac was too fast
Jorge Solis said his wife hits harder than Manny
Oscar said after his fight with Pacman a few days after his loss that he didn't feel any power it was just pac was too fast and he couldnt catch him.
Brandon Rios said Pac had no power he couldn't feel his punches and it was just the speed that bothered him.
Margarito laughed and smiled and stuck his tongue out and told Garcia in the corner Pacquiao doesn't have power or hit hard.

Re: Oscar quit on his stool so obviously saying he didn't feel any power from PAC is wrong.

Re: Brandon Rios.. See my avatar

Re: Maragrito.. He looks like he's got a glass eye now lol

[NearHypnos]

Clottey got was drop by a stiff jab that caught him off balance was nothing hurt by the punch. Clottey not stopped by no one

Shane did stop Marg, with a shed load of power shots, and Mosley is a massive puncher at welter. Cotto only stopped Marg because of his dodgy eye which Pacquiao done to him.

Marquz did get dropped by Kats and by Floyd, but Pacquiao has put the guy down 5 times Marquez not stopped by no one.

Shane was stopped because of his back injury against Mundane, way past his best as well and not at welter, and only Forrest had put him down before.


Bradley never stopped in his career, though Prov was very very close.

And Rios another one never stopped.


Why do you think so many fighters cover up in their shells or run and just try and survive when fighting Pacquiao?

Marg threw, allegedly had Pac hurt. Bradley wasnt afraid either. Hell, Pac even said Rios had him badly hurt

Shane was old and he fought Floyd and Mora that way. Cotto used to not cower when hurt til Marg used da plaster. Everybody else? Simple. Speed. Not power. The speed to not let people do anything. In what world would a smaller fatter slower less "skilled" version of Marg in Rios did anyone expect him to ever reach Pac? Lol. People don't shell up vs Pac they just cant keep up (Clottey was shameful though).


Pac's a stud man and has no doubt benefitted from good matchmaking too. Pac is not only flat out better than most the guys he has fought but also has a stylistic edge. Hence the criticism of him never having fought slick or fast fighters then "loses" to Bradley and looks freakishly uncomfortable vs Shane (Pac admitted Shane..yes... Old shane's speed had him confused and weary).

[Vasyl’s dad]

Can you do an analysis on Timmothy Bradley's power?

[ramses07]

agreed.

pac has never knock down jmm or koed a guy with his hands down.

man you pac only fans and floyd only fans are ridiculous. may weather never even came close to hurting marquez or stopping marquez, pacquiao actually did.

everybody knows pac has good power at welterweight, sure its not 1-punch power like in his lower weights, but i bet most fighters aren't willing to trade with him.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Actually Pac's power started to diminish after the 3rd Morales fight. This was when Pac's sledge hammer of a left was sacrificed by Roach to make him a more complete fighter. Pac never relied on timing when he was a merely left handed power puncher. He dropped foes like flies. Pac's left was so lethal even grazing punches rocked his opponents. Pac threw his killer left after a measuring right jab which was aided by the whole weight of his body propelled by the enormous energy generated by the twisting reflex motions of his right and left calves. Even Emmanuel Steward observed this.

[Pain~Lucy]

I'm a pac fan and i'm supporting hectari here