Richard Torrez Jr vs Guido Vianello - ESPN+

[billeau2]

Make Torrez- Hughie next. And provide the audience free cyanide capsules

[joesaiditstrue]

Torres looks tired. So much for his great stamina. Too wreckless and wasting energy.

stamina was drained after 4 rds, Guido using the Wlad playbook.

[Joseph]

Torrez definitely needed a test, but was this it? I'm willing to admit that it could have just been a bad style matchup. But the kid needs work. He has no defense or self-control. He's a brawling bull - exciting, and good at that, but it he wants to be a boxer like he keeps saying, get some new people behind you. I like the kid so I will see what happens next, but this was a disaster all around.

[MulaKO]

Torrez definitely needed a test, but was this it? I'm willing to admit that it could have just been a bad style matchup. But the kid needs work. He has no defense or self-control. He's a brawling bull - exciting, and good at that, but it he wants to be a boxer like he keeps saying, get some new people behind you. I like the kid so I will see what happens next, but this was a disaster all around.

Couldn’t agree with you more

[morph_resurrected]

Torrez definitely needed a test, but was this it? I'm willing to admit that it could have just been a bad style matchup. But the kid needs work. He has no defense or self-control. He's a brawling bull - exciting, and good at that, but it he wants to be a boxer like he keeps saying, get some new people behind you. I like the kid so I will see what happens next, but this was a disaster all around.

Yeah he’s too wild. He gets picked apart easy against any serious contender. He’s always been too wild and too brawling to be taken as a serious threat in the heavyweight division.

[MulaKO]

And those cards were pretty wide imo

[billeau2]

Torrez definitely needed a test, but was this it? I'm willing to admit that it could have just been a bad style matchup. But the kid needs work. He has no defense or self-control. He's a brawling bull - exciting, and good at that, but it he wants to be a boxer like he keeps saying, get some new people behind you. I like the kid so I will see what happens next, but this was a disaster all around.

yeah... I mean his corner should have at least calmed him down. and helped him with his sense of distance and timing. It was in the ninth round when he actually started to get a feel for distance but he got hit! He launches his shots and does not have the explosiveness of a really hard hitter.

I see traits similar to Marciano but Marciano really had a punch that was an equalizer and was very crafty despite the appearance of being just a brawler. Marciano knew how to crouch, leap in and hit hard enough to make a difference.. Torrez just does not seem to possess such power, certainly not an understanding of the craft. he will get pasted (at this rate at least) the first time he fights a guy who can time him, slide over and catch him. I hope he can improve, but as you say: he needs a real trainer, at the very least.

[billeau2]

And those cards were pretty wide imo

They were going to give it to Torrez unless he got laid out. The Italian was really having it tough... Hard to hit a guy who comes in and just grabs, head butts and tries to hit you back of the head... Toney Galento style! This kid better get a corner and improve fast or he is getting pasted!

[MulaKO]

They were going to give it to Torrez unless he got laid out. The Italian was really having it tough... Hard to hit a guy who comes in and just grabs, head butts and tries to hit you back of the head... Toney Galento style! This kid better get a corner and improve fast or he is getting pasted!

This resembled backyard boxing
lmao

[Oracle01]

Torrez definitely needed a test, but was this it? I'm willing to admit that it could have just been a bad style matchup. But the kid needs work. He has no defense or self-control. He's a brawling bull - exciting, and good at that, but it he wants to be a boxer like he keeps saying, get some new people behind you. I like the kid so I will see what happens next, but this was a disaster all around.

He's a bum and his style will never change. He is what he is. Guido looked like he started boxing last year, can literally not throw a punch on the inside and can't throw a jab. Fight was embarrassing.