First ill start by saying sorry for the bad grammer and bad spelling you are about to read.
I have been a part of thie site more some years now. it seems every time a fighter moves up in weight or down in weight, the fans are ready to find reasons for the bad performance even before the fight.
The biggest one i have heard had been for the de la hoya vs pacman fight. De la hoya fans are seing that oscar was dehydrated and in bad shape. De la hoya was not dehydrated, if that were the case he would of put on more weight the night of the fight. And yes for the pacman fans that keep saying Oscar was in great shape a week ago, Great shape does not mean fighting shape. Body builders are in great shape but i dont think they can last 5 rounds in boxing. Would pacman have beaten oscar if oscar was in fighting shape, maybe because watching pacman was something amazing, he turned oscar and made him miss and made him look bad.
The oscar fans need to realize that it wasnt pacmans fault oscar wasnt in fighting shape, it was oscar and his teams fault. If you are below the weight of a class that you had trooble makeing when you were in that class shouldnt that put up a red flag? Shouldnt you consider what could happen and study the sport to see what has happend when people lose to much weight? C Byrd an olympic teamate of oscar had that same problem earlier this year, and im sure oscar saw that fight. Did they think that pushing his body very hard early on was going to give him more energy?
Another thing i was thinking, how many fighters above 147 has nacho worked with? im sure there are some but his best work has been bellow 147, with the marquez brother. Did he have oscar do the same thing his smaller faster fighters do? Either way it is oscars fault because he chooses his team.
I just want people to stop and think about the diffrence of being in good shape and being in fighting shape, if oscar was in fighting shape a week earlier then your setting up the argument of over tranning. I am a big oscar fan, i think manny could not be stopped in that fight he had a country behind him, and oscar had the chicano and some american fighters, but i would say many fans turned there back on him when that fight was signed. So lets not take away from many because he did an amazing job and would have probably still beaten oscar, but we also have to admit that it wasnt oscar in that ring, but that was no ones fault but his own.
So with that being said i hope people understand the diffrence between great shape and fighting shape.
One last piece of bad spelling and grammer for you. Who decides what some ones natural weight is?
I have hear on this site that Oscar fights little guys, hopkins fights little guys, bellow his natural weight. Who determins some ones natural weight?
Ill ask this what is Pacman s natural weight?
Remember he went pro at 16 at a very low weight, a well neutritioned male body doesnt stop growing till age of 21, From the stories that i have heard pacman was not eating every day witch will slow down the growing a body.(remember growing doesnt just mean getting tall) so lets say a body like pacmans would maybe be a good size around 24 or 25 years old. When he faught at 130 he was weighting at 139 -140, when he faught at 135 he weighed in at 144, with that information what is his natural weight?
(i use manny because right now he has shown that there is no such thing as a natural weight, if you prepare yourself and have a big heart you can do great in many weight classes)
I have been a part of thie site more some years now. it seems every time a fighter moves up in weight or down in weight, the fans are ready to find reasons for the bad performance even before the fight.
The biggest one i have heard had been for the de la hoya vs pacman fight. De la hoya fans are seing that oscar was dehydrated and in bad shape. De la hoya was not dehydrated, if that were the case he would of put on more weight the night of the fight. And yes for the pacman fans that keep saying Oscar was in great shape a week ago, Great shape does not mean fighting shape. Body builders are in great shape but i dont think they can last 5 rounds in boxing. Would pacman have beaten oscar if oscar was in fighting shape, maybe because watching pacman was something amazing, he turned oscar and made him miss and made him look bad.
The oscar fans need to realize that it wasnt pacmans fault oscar wasnt in fighting shape, it was oscar and his teams fault. If you are below the weight of a class that you had trooble makeing when you were in that class shouldnt that put up a red flag? Shouldnt you consider what could happen and study the sport to see what has happend when people lose to much weight? C Byrd an olympic teamate of oscar had that same problem earlier this year, and im sure oscar saw that fight. Did they think that pushing his body very hard early on was going to give him more energy?
Another thing i was thinking, how many fighters above 147 has nacho worked with? im sure there are some but his best work has been bellow 147, with the marquez brother. Did he have oscar do the same thing his smaller faster fighters do? Either way it is oscars fault because he chooses his team.
I just want people to stop and think about the diffrence of being in good shape and being in fighting shape, if oscar was in fighting shape a week earlier then your setting up the argument of over tranning. I am a big oscar fan, i think manny could not be stopped in that fight he had a country behind him, and oscar had the chicano and some american fighters, but i would say many fans turned there back on him when that fight was signed. So lets not take away from many because he did an amazing job and would have probably still beaten oscar, but we also have to admit that it wasnt oscar in that ring, but that was no ones fault but his own.
So with that being said i hope people understand the diffrence between great shape and fighting shape.
One last piece of bad spelling and grammer for you. Who decides what some ones natural weight is?
I have hear on this site that Oscar fights little guys, hopkins fights little guys, bellow his natural weight. Who determins some ones natural weight?
Ill ask this what is Pacman s natural weight?
Remember he went pro at 16 at a very low weight, a well neutritioned male body doesnt stop growing till age of 21, From the stories that i have heard pacman was not eating every day witch will slow down the growing a body.(remember growing doesnt just mean getting tall) so lets say a body like pacmans would maybe be a good size around 24 or 25 years old. When he faught at 130 he was weighting at 139 -140, when he faught at 135 he weighed in at 144, with that information what is his natural weight?
(i use manny because right now he has shown that there is no such thing as a natural weight, if you prepare yourself and have a big heart you can do great in many weight classes)
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