Originally posted by travestyny
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Stop it. It's over.
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Yup, it is OVER!!!!!
The CAS panel has spoken!!!!
Exogenous Testosterone is a Non-Threshold substance. Meaning, the mere presence in the athlete's sample constitutes an anti-doping
violation.
BUT because Testosterone can be generated Exogenously or Endogenously, the confirmation of the Exogenous of the
Testosterone is the task of the IRMS testing. The confirmation procedure does not end, however, with the determination that the
exogenous testosterone is also present in the urine of the athlete. WADA prescribes that the results of an IRMS test will be reported
as consistent with the exogenous administration of a steroid when the carbon-13 to carbon 12 value measured for the metabolite differs
significantly, by 3 delta units or more from the chosen ERC. in addition, the ratio measured for the metabolite must lie below -28%
of that ERC. Even the LAB in applying these thresholds works with varying uncertainty factors in evaluating the results of the IRMS
testing.
It is clear, therefore, on the basis of the TD2004EAAS that thresholds are indeed present and must be taken into account in
the IRMS testing for the presence of Non-Threshold Substances.
violation.
BUT because Testosterone can be generated Exogenously or Endogenously, the confirmation of the Exogenous of the
Testosterone is the task of the IRMS testing. The confirmation procedure does not end, however, with the determination that the
exogenous testosterone is also present in the urine of the athlete. WADA prescribes that the results of an IRMS test will be reported
as consistent with the exogenous administration of a steroid when the carbon-13 to carbon 12 value measured for the metabolite differs
significantly, by 3 delta units or more from the chosen ERC. in addition, the ratio measured for the metabolite must lie below -28%
of that ERC. Even the LAB in applying these thresholds works with varying uncertainty factors in evaluating the results of the IRMS
testing.
It is clear, therefore, on the basis of the TD2004EAAS that thresholds are indeed present and must be taken into account in
the IRMS testing for the presence of Non-Threshold Substances.
The WADA EXPERTs have spoken ..... there are threshold !!!!!!
TRAVESTNY is WRONG! Sorry!
and ABP test ===>> HT blood test.
Is the WADA document that I showed you old?
You didn't reply DEFLECTOR?

YOU ARE RIGHT, IT is OVER!!!
What a blood bath!!!
Originally posted by Sh|ts on Brits
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Let Kuyukut resort to profanity and name calling. That's all he has because he can't argue with facts or logic.
His polls aren't public so I don't pay attention to them. I'm certain he just pleads with his buddies in the Pinoy Lounge to flood in and vote a certain way.
His polls aren't public so I don't pay attention to them. I'm certain he just pleads with his buddies in the Pinoy Lounge to flood in and vote a certain way.
Originally posted by ADP02
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I am speaking to a Mayweather fan who cannot see what is wrong with having a Mayweather Mafia guy as judge
without me knowing about it and 2 other judges being his "friends".
You just lost all credibility my Mayweather friend!!!!
You guys were throwing at me Hanzgruber, You Shoulder Roll, some other Mayweather fans .... the only guy missing was LarryXXX
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You just lost all credibility my Mayweather friend!!!!
You guys were throwing at me Hanzgruber, You Shoulder Roll, some other Mayweather fans .... the only guy missing was LarryXXX

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I deliberately excused myself from being a judge before the whole thing got underway, precisely because I knew there would be accusations of bias. Since I am a vocal Mayweather fan. So no one "threw" me at you.
It's really sad that you can't honor your bet and on top of that you have stooped to spreading falsehoods.
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Originally posted by ADP02
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Yup, it is OVER!!!!!
The CAS panel has spoken!!!!
The WADA EXPERTs have spoken ..... there are threshold !!!!!!
TRAVESTNY is WRONG! Sorry!
and ABP test ===>> HT blood test.
Is the WADA document that I showed you old?
You didn't reply DEFLECTOR?
YOU ARE RIGHT, IT is OVER!!!
What a blood bath!!!
The CAS panel has spoken!!!!
The WADA EXPERTs have spoken ..... there are threshold !!!!!!
TRAVESTNY is WRONG! Sorry!
and ABP test ===>> HT blood test.
Is the WADA document that I showed you old?
You didn't reply DEFLECTOR?

YOU ARE RIGHT, IT is OVER!!!
What a blood bath!!!
Care to bet your account on it

Of course you don't want to. 4-0 Loser.
Try to stop crying about it now

AND WHAT THE FVVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS NEW DEFLECTION ABOUT AN OLD DOCUMENT. I SAID NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING BEING OLD. I EVEN SHOWED YOU THE NEW DOCUMENT YOU MORON. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ATHLETE BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT. YOU CAN'T WIN!
Give up!

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Originally posted by Spoon23
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Huh? Doesn't matter if its public or not. It's open to the forum members. That's what counts. Step up biatch haha!
Let the votes be public so we can see exactly who is voting, that way we can be sure that Kuyu***** didn't go running to the Pinoy Lounge asking for his circle jerk to flood the poll.
You are against transparency too, aren't you? That's why you wouldn't do a round-by-round debate about this fight when you were challenged to.
Only cowards run from a fair fight, Spoon.
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Originally posted by ADP02
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As per Dr Catlin testimony, at the time the WADA approved LAB was testing with a criteria of 80% which was the IOC/WADA set threshold (not harmonized though) but there was new information such as the upcoming WADA document that would take into affect the following year. Dr Catlin was trying to convince that the new criteria should be accepted as well as the currently accepted BAP threshold criteria! BAP threshold criteria was accepted in the previous CAS cases and had precedence BUT Dr Catlin said they can go lower based on new evidence.

Originally posted by ADP02
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The CAS panel accepted other criteria since, as I said, it would come into affect anyways ..... and the UCI rules state that they can use any means as long as they are sound. So as the panel said, those criteria are just as reliable as the BAP criteria.

Do you realize that you were stomped so completely that you have no comeback? Just stop it. It's annoying. I'm not here to comfort you about your loss. You can't win. Take it like a man, accept your loss, and run away!
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Originally posted by ADP02
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I am speaking to a Mayweather fan who cannot see what is wrong with having a Mayweather Mafia guy as judge
without me knowing about it and 2 other judges being his "friends".
You just lost all credibility my Mayweather friend!!!!
You guys were throwing at me Hanzgruber, You Shoulder Roll, some other Mayweather fans .... the only guy missing was LarryXXX
.
.

You just lost all credibility my Mayweather friend!!!!
You guys were throwing at me Hanzgruber, You Shoulder Roll, some other Mayweather fans .... the only guy missing was LarryXXX

.
.
Originally posted by travestyny
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You're full of shlt. Billeau went on record stating he believes Pacquiao won the Mayweather fight. He chose against you.
Zaroku was one of the first you accepted and he is NOT a Mayweather fan.
Willy Wanker is neutral on both, but seems to lean toward pacquiao from what I remember.
Right there, you're done. But keep trying to claw yourself out of this year long grave. This affected you more than I even thought. I could have sworn you'd be over it by now. Give up
Zaroku was one of the first you accepted and he is NOT a Mayweather fan.
Willy Wanker is neutral on both, but seems to lean toward pacquiao from what I remember.
Right there, you're done. But keep trying to claw yourself out of this year long grave. This affected you more than I even thought. I could have sworn you'd be over it by now. Give up
I'm OK with your DQ. Why shouldn't I be?

Sorry but I speak the TRUTH!
Was I stating a lie when I say that 1 judge was a Mayweather Mafia group?
Was I stating a lie when I say that 2 judges were "friends" with the Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted being friends with Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you didn't mention any of this?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted that crap and still do? WTF!!!!
I discovered that on my own. No help from you and for you to want to accept that.
Sorry
but that is an automatic DQ for Travestyny!!!
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Originally posted by adp02
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i'm ok with your dq. Why shouldn't i be?
Sorry but i speak the truth!
Was i stating a lie when i say that 1 judge was a mayweather mafia group?
Was i stating a lie when i say that 2 judges were "friends" with the mayweather mafia group judge?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you accepted being friends with mayweather mafia group judge?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you didn't mention any of this?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you accepted that crap and still do? Wtf!!!!
i discovered that on my own. No help from you and for you to want to accept that.
sorry
but that is an automatic dq for travestyny!!!
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Sorry but i speak the truth!
Was i stating a lie when i say that 1 judge was a mayweather mafia group?
Was i stating a lie when i say that 2 judges were "friends" with the mayweather mafia group judge?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you accepted being friends with mayweather mafia group judge?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you didn't mention any of this?
Was i stating a lie when i say that you accepted that crap and still do? Wtf!!!!
i discovered that on my own. No help from you and for you to want to accept that.
sorry
but that is an automatic dq for travestyny!!!
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Did you choose and accept the judges or not?
Originally posted by travestyny
Choose 3 judges and post up your info. Stop stalling.
Last edited by travestyny; 07-08-2018, 09:29 PM.
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Originally posted by travestyny
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Did the court say there is no numerical limit or not?
Let me know.
Did they say that the BAP and the other criteria are not thresholds? Let me know
Do you realize that you were stomped so completely that you have no comeback? Just stop it. It's annoying. I'm not here to comfort you about your loss. You can't win. Take it like a man, accept your loss, and run away!

Did they say that the BAP and the other criteria are not thresholds? Let me know

Do you realize that you were stomped so completely that you have no comeback? Just stop it. It's annoying. I'm not here to comfort you about your loss. You can't win. Take it like a man, accept your loss, and run away!
Travestyny ..... you are way too lost. I keep on telling you that your biggest mistake was when you saw that document on threshold substances.
You confused yourself.
I provided you with Dr Catlin's:
Dr Catlin testified that the current threshold used was 80%
The CAS said that this is unlike threshold substances and all means can be used.
The other criteria were accepted by the CAS panel since they were going to be coming into the picture in the near future.
But what did Dr Catlin who is the one who wrote the new document say? Current BAP test ==> 80% Sorry!!!! Is Dr Catlin not a good enough WADA EPO expert for you? WTF!!!
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Originally posted by ADP02
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I'm OK with your DQ. Why shouldn't I be?
Sorry but I speak the TRUTH!
Was I stating a lie when I say that 1 judge was a Mayweather Mafia group?
Was I stating a lie when I say that 2 judges were "friends" with the Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted being friends with Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you didn't mention any of this?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted that crap and still do? WTF!!!!
I discovered that on my own. No help from you and for you to want to accept that.
Sorry
but that is an automatic DQ for Travestyny!!!
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Sorry but I speak the TRUTH!
Was I stating a lie when I say that 1 judge was a Mayweather Mafia group?
Was I stating a lie when I say that 2 judges were "friends" with the Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted being friends with Mayweather Mafia group judge?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you didn't mention any of this?
Was I stating a lie when I say that you accepted that crap and still do? WTF!!!!
I discovered that on my own. No help from you and for you to want to accept that.
Sorry
but that is an automatic DQ for Travestyny!!!
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Originally posted by travestyny
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Did you choose and accept the judges or not?
DEFLECTOR, the answer to my questions was what?
I did not lie with those statements and this was discovered after the fact!!!! Right?

By the way, are you OK if we go to the dome with a poster named "Spoonie" and his friends? Since you DEFLECTED and didn't respond to that post, we know your answer is NO, DEFLECTOR!!!!
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