Dr. Z's top 25 heavyweight prospects,Q2 2024

[HisExcellency]

Eff Pandas Dr. Z

Check out this Olympic contest between Jalolov & Joyce (a 'grade C' Heavyweight at best)...Joyce really put it on him and Jalolov looked VERY uncomfortable fighting on the back foot and actually lost the fight.



Maybe he's waiting for the ELITE Heavyweights to retire e.g. Joshua, Fury & Usyk before going full speed at the pro's

[Dr. Z]

Eff Pandas Dr. Z

Check out this amateur Olympic fight between Jalolov & Joyce (a 'grade C' Heavyweight at best)...Joyce really put it on him and Jalolov looked VERY uncomfortable fighting on the back foot and actually lost the fight.

Joyce was 30 and in his prime. Jalolov was 22. Rather young for a super heavyweight. The same year he lost to Ivan Dychko.

Joyce was a grade A amateur and a decent pro. Not a grade C pro.

Back then, as an amateur the young Jaloov needed to grow a pair vs. tank like fighters.

[HisExcellency]

Joyce was 30 and in his prime. Jalolov was 22. Rather young for a super heavyweight. The same year he lost to Ivan Dychko.

Joyce was a grade A amateur and a decent pro. Not a grade C pro.

Back then, as an amateur the young Jaloov needed to grow a pair vs. tank like fighters.

Yeah Jalolov was incredibly green whereas Joyce was much more experienced but it's still surprising to see how much he got DOMINATED (including a standing count) during this fight despite his significant height and reach advantage. I'm sure he's improved leaps and bounds since this performance but it seems like he has a problem dealing with pressure fighter's with a high work rate who can take a punch like Joyce.

[Eff Pandas]

Eff Pandas Dr. Z

Check out this Olympic contest between Jalolov & Joyce (a 'grade C' Heavyweight at best)...Joyce really put it on him and Jalolov looked VERY uncomfortable fighting on the back foot and actually lost the fight.



Maybe he's waiting for the ELITE Heavyweights to retire e.g. Joshua, Fury & Usyk before going full speed at the pro's

There maybe something to this in how hes moved as a pro & why hes fighting in the Olympics again. Regardless of the age & experience angles here there is the baby elephant tied to the post theory here one could argue.

Everyone can see this guy is a massive talent, but a fight like this (or others he lost) could still be in his head & could be whats holding him back from pursuing his pro career in a more aggressive manner as you'd expect someone of his talent to do.

To be clear not saying that is the case, but I do contend hes moving in a subpar way & going to the Olympics again as a HW contender whos already won a gold medal seems like cherry picking to me & a step backwards.

[Dr. Z]

Yeah Jalolov was incredibly green whereas Joyce was much more experienced but it's still surprising to see how much he got DOMINATED (including a standing count) during this fight despite his significant height and reach advantage. I'm sure he's improved leaps and bounds since this performance but it seems like he has a problem dealing with pressure fighter's with a high work rate who can take a punch like Joyce.

Yes, but we must remember he was a 22 year old man child back then. Now he is a mature man who moves around the ring very well, and hits even harder than he did as a 22 year old. I view his power as a rare 10 out of 10 now. Hrgovic's power level would be a 9 or 9.5.


Jarolov now at age 28 would beat the best version of Joyce as a pro ar amatuer.

Back then at age 22 Jarolov was a bit of a coward afraid to stand his ground vs. a rare pressure fighter who can take it and deliver it. Now due to his footwork and footspeed jab ,reach and power it will take a better fighter than Joe Joyce to make him.

His courage is better now. How good remains to be seen.

I predict Jarolov will likely be a world champion. And so will Hrgovic

[MikeyMike100]

Its wild how under 34 is the age of a qualifying prospect.

That used to be considered old for a heavyweight fighter

[MikeyMike100]

If we are projecting who has the highest potential it has to be Itauma.

If we are projecting the safest bet I'd say its Kabayel

[Dr. Z]

Its wild how under 34 is the age of a qualifying prospect.

That used to be considered old for a heavyweight fighter

Welcome to 2024. Heavyweights used to fight often. Now they fight less often and are prospects if they are undefeated for a while.

[MikeyMike100]

Welcome to 2024. Heavyweight used to fight often. Now they fight less often and prospects if they are undefeated for a while.

Very true and kind of disappointing

[HisExcellency]

There maybe something to this in how hes moved as a pro & why hes fighting in the Olympics again. Regardless of the age & experience angles here there is the baby elephant tied to the post theory here one could argue.

Everyone can see this guy is a massive talent, but a fight like this (or others he lost) could still be in his head & could be whats holding him back from pursuing his pro career in a more aggressive manner as you'd expect someone of his talent to do.

To be clear not saying that is the case, but I do contend hes moving in a subpar way & going to the Olympics again as a HW contender whos already won a gold medal seems like cherry picking to me & a step backwards.

Totally agree...Jalolov being moved slowly in the pros is extremely BIZARRE especially considering the progress that other Uzbek prospects have made. Putting aside the fact that he's already won everything there is to win on the amateur circuit i.e. Olympic Gold, 2x World Amateur Golds, Asian Gold etc, his fellow countrymen are either challenging for world titles e.g. Ergashev + Kholmatov or winning them e.g. Madrimov + Akhmadaliev. Therefore, the only logical reason I can think of that Jalolov is being held back and not joining the 'Uzbek wave' is because he's waiting for the likes of Joshua, Usyk & Fury to age/retire and given that the recent undisputed clash participants were 35 & 37 respectively, he's obviously in no rush aged just 29.

Very strange indeed.