why is hbo not ivolved with the casa v jmm fight?

[Micka]

i hate these ****in commentators.
they sound awful.
where is jim lampley?
emanuel stewart?

lol where is HBO!?

[neils7147933]

Cost-cutting. Apparently the "premium HBO" numbers didn't appeal to Golden Boy, but they still had HBO distribute...

[MJ406]

Cost-cutting. Apparently the "premium HBO" numbers didn't appeal to Golden Boy, but they still had HBO distribute...

but I've heard a lot of complaints regarding the fight and how they used Mario Lopez and non HBO commentators.

like no High Def, no regular old HBO.

**is this something Golden Boy will do more in the future? or just for the smaller events.

*as I didn't mind the change to be honest, instead of the same ole HBO coverage.

*then again I didn't buy the fight, I watched a stream.

good point, HBO did distribute, as the Casamayor-JMM PPV is listed on the HBO boxing past events website. but why no HBO commentators?

[neils7147933]

but I've heard a lot of complaints regarding the fight and how they used Mario Lopez and non HBO commentators.

like no High Def, no regular old HBO.

**is this something Golden Boy will do more in the future? or just for the smaller events.

*as I didn't mind the change to be honest, instead of the same ole HBO coverage.

*then again I didn't buy the fight, I watched a stream.

good point, HBO did distribute, as the Casamayor-JMM PPV is listed on the HBO boxing past events website. but why no HBO commentators?

You have to pay Lampley/Papa, Merchant/Kellerman, Steward/Lewis more and there may be contractual restrictions, in fact I imagine there are, with those guys appearing on non-HBO produced boxing events.

The Barrera-Fana PPV was the same - using the old HBO graphics too...

Sometimes Showtime will do that too - see the Chavez Sr-Ivan Robinson PPV or Mayorga-Vargas for example...

They're big enough names that HBO will distribute with their name, but no countdown show, anything else that makes it seem like an HBO production, but its exposure level is higher than say Arthur Abraham vs. Raul Marquez October 4, which will be much less hyped and probably get a bunch less buys than if HBO or Showtime was advertising, but the up-front costcutting might be more profitable.

[MJ406]

You have to pay Lampley/Papa, Merchant/Kellerman, Steward/Lewis more and there may be contractual restrictions, in fact I imagine there are, with those guys appearing on non-HBO produced boxing events.

well true, Lampley did commentate for the Olympics. the bolded doesn't really apply to the Casamayor/Marquez fight as you yourself said HBO distributed the fight. (answer explained **)

ah yeah got ya, true that does make sense, was HBO anywhere to be seen during the broadcast at all? just curious as I wasn't looking too hard, but didn't catch any HBO references myself. you said this but it didn't seem like an HBO production.


the up-front cost cutting might be more profitable.

**I think that's what it came down to, using the normal HBO commentators would have cost too much, so HBO still promoted (Casa/JMM) but went a different route as far as the production goes.

which was radically different, but I didn't mind it as Lampley, Merchant and Steward tend to get old and predictable, IMO

[neils7147933]

**I think that's what it came down to, using the normal HBO commentators would have cost too much, so HBO still promoted (Casa/JMM) but went a different route as far as the production goes.

which was radically different, but I didn't mind it as Lampley, Merchant and Steward tend to get old and predictable, IMO

I think there's a distinction between distributing and producing...

[box2box]

Is this Oscar preparing us for the future - Golden Boy TV??

[MJ406]

I think there's a distinction between distributing and producing...

so HBO distributed it

but not produced it.

final answer.