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        Originally posted by Vlad_ View Post
        Trump's lead is 90k live.
        Down to 75k now.....

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          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
          Yeah Trump was a massive figurehead for these guys. He talked openly ****** like these guys do and they might not see that ever again.
          I'd like to think that but I've already heard of a couple Trumpist being elected to Senate & Congress on Tuesday.

          Trumpism's influence on Team R isn't over even if Trump is gone this year. Unless all the Michael Cohen types are correct in that Trump is gonna be fighting off prison & legal battles post-presidency I fully expect Trump to run again in 2024 or be the Godfather to the person who does from Team R.

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            "Dems committed voter fraud only to win Presidency, but decided out of the kindness of their hearts not to steal the senate"
            -Someone who is supposedly not a sheep

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              Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
              "Dems committed voter fraud only to win Presidency, but decided out of the kindness of their hearts not to steal the senate"
              -Someone who is supposedly not a sheep

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                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Well then what are you going back n forth with me about? Reread what I said. I said once the result comes in officially I expect some sh^t to go down by the losing party.

                If the D's lose I'd expect it sooner rather than later. If the R's lose I'd expect it to be more planned & could be more aligned to ***** being sworn in. Idk just speculating there on the time tables, but I expect violence by the losers cuz this is gonna be a painful L for them.
                Again, what I said was that whoever the losing party is, only one has been building and appears to be poised to cause havoc. One side, not both as you’re suggesting. I’m going by what every sane person can see happening on their computer or television screes, deluded Trump surrogates and supporters creating an alternate reality around our electoral process. I don’t expect the same out of the left as I do out of the Right, which is my point and you haven’t used or demonstrated how this would be accomplished by the Left.

                From my vantage point, I see one side building to absolute hysteria to the point our most sacred traditions are meaningless to them. When you make a comparison, please be kind enough to back it up, because all we’re doing is meaningless back and forth with only me providing any links or basis for what I believe.

                From what I’m been reading it appears as if some people are simply content with making assertions and assuming that they are true. Since I think critically and ask for supporting evidence I’m not one of those people.

                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Oh yea I'd agree with this in the context as the failure of the wide victory & the 75%ish chance predictions to take the senate probably brought some fear & anger with it. That's still a whole other thing than officially losing the White House which hasn't been called yet obviously. That's the thing folks are invested in the most. The senate, congress or size of the W aren't as important as the guy who's running things in 2021.
                I wasn’t referring to The House or Senate actually, not even a little bit. So obviously we were looking at two different events. I was reading message boards and listening to interviews of saddened ********s who were expecting a blowout, were instead seeing a much, much tighter race than they expected. You have to understand, many ********s expected a moral repudiation to Trumpism, and as the night progressed it was clear that wasn’t going to happen.

                The size of the win in a Presential election is actually all-important because it lets the incoming President know if he has some sort of mandate to govern.

                Senatorial races tend to go in the direction of the winner of the State, so in that sense, the Senate started to come into focus much later as it appeared that Trump’s surge was more of a red mirage.

                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                I've already heard this, but it's not like anything can't turn on a dime with one legal W or loophole found with how close it still appears it will be. One state will likely be enough to decide the President.
                Again, you have to have a reasonable rationale and many legal experts are seeing little to nothing Trump's legal team can move on. Simply because a race is close or you feel like there might be voter fraud is not a reasonable basis to launch a lawsuit. You haven’t laid anything out here as well, that’s where Trump is right now and why he’s watching Fox News and raging like a brain-damaged infant.

                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Have you watched or heard the news this year? There was looting this fooking year at D leaning protests. What proof do you need things could wild out beyond that exactly if this election goes the wrong way for D fanboys?

                Like I keep saying both sides or those favoring one side or are blind to their own bs & love pointing out the other sides bs. As a cat who thinks both sides are cults at their core I agree with both sides about the other side, but disagree with both sides about their own side. It's sorta comical to me on some level.
                Yes, I have watched the news this year but I’m the only one that was paying attention apparently. The looting and fires are not legitimate protestors and there were even instances of people trying to tarnish these protests by deliberately starting fires etc. Also, those demonstrations were taken by Fox News and Conservative media outlets and hyped beyond what they were. That’s what the Right loves to do, scare itself with imaginary threats and to delude themselves into thinking the Left is as terrible as they are

                The vandals were in the minority and did not represent what the protests were all about, but see, that’s what people on the Right love to do, distract away from the real problem to create a fantasy one. Police brutality and institutional racism are the problems, not *** or Antifa.

                Like I keep saying, one side is predominately responsible for the mayhem, indeed, the DHS Secretary explains this, and the head of the FBI makes it clear that *** isn’t a group, etc. This isn’t to ignore what does happen on the Left, my point was and is, there’s nothing happening on the Left like what’s going on, on the Right.

                Pleas for social redress in the form of protests are not the same as carrying guns to polling stations to intimidate the count.

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                  From the NY Post, which supported Trump in this election:

                  A panicked Donald Trump Jr. on Thursday fired off a tweet calling for his dad to wage “total war over the election” — while parroting the same baseless allegations of voter fraud that his father has used to explain away his dwindling hopes of staying in the White House.

                  Twitter quickly hid the message from view for spreading false information about the election.

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                    Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
                    Mail ballots was rigged and a sham.


                    My younger brother hasn’t lived with me for years and his mail in ballot came in the mail at my house. I could’ve filled it out and signed it and sent it in voting for Kanye.

                    He wouldn’t have cared.
                    I don't doubt our government is inefficient. Go to the DMV ffs. They mail stimulus checks to dead folks a few months back.

                    So I don't doubt some ballots went out to old addresses or to dead mfers. I don't think it's rigged or anything doe. I just think we got a highly inefficient government cuz we know longer value trying to be as good as we can be as much as we value saying we are #1.

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                      The polls being wrong sure is a major thing to these guys.

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