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[messi807]

What truth is is saying? Spell it out.

Lopez didn't beat Warrington. What rounds did he win then?

Lopez is a nobody that lost to a damaged Warrington. He even drew with a ropey fringe level fighter in Joet Gonzalez but got a grotesque wide UD. Conlan was done after the brutal KO he received against Wood. It meant nothing for Lopez. Unless of course you think Jordan Gill is a somebody who also beat the brakes off Conlan and stopped him.

List all the stars that Mexicans go over and beat? Tell me what condition they were in while you're there as well. Anyone under the same conditions loses. It isn't exclusive. Just look at Lara in his last fight and how he performed after coming from a loss and getting a gift decision after clearly losing. Could you imagine how bad he'd look being out for 17 months in a lockdown without any sparring because everyone in the country had to remain with only their families? he'd be taken out in a round or two. Yet Warrington gave him a life and death war. Did you see what happened to Berchelt when coming from a loss against Nakathila even though he was a big favourite? Did you see what happened to Mikey Garcia after being out for so long when he fought a huge underdog in Martin? He was dominated. That's why Mexicans love fighting opponents under those conditions. But it also tells you how fraudulent they are. They lose on a level playing field, that's why.

Nice try but neither Nakathila or Martin are from the UK. Gotta tell your own fighters to fight their own battles my friend.

[messi807]

You're wasting your time, he has been bombarding me with stats and comments where he believes 100% that dogboe won the fight against Ramirez, in his own words the guy was robbed. Is dogboe British?

Yeah Dogboe is British LOL. Dude told me that Warrington beat Lopez and Lopez lost to Joet also. I’ve never heard so much mushroom talk

[garfios]

Yeah Dogboe is British LOL. Dude told me that Warrington beat Lopez and Lopez lost to Joet also. I’ve never heard so much mushroom talk

What a delusional kvnt.

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LOL. A guy two weight classes below Canelo is an even playing-field apparently.. that’s that UK delusion. We beat Mexicans quite often.. in fact that’s the easiest style for slick fighters to beat.

Couldn’t even tell you the top 5 UK fighters right now, ya’ll are bad.. like really bad.

What the f3ck are you talking about? I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying it isn't exclusive when a fighter loses when the other has an advantage. Do you know how to read?

We beat them when we're not at such a huge disadvantage too. In fact, we beat you and them the vast majority of the time we fight. That's a fact throughout history. Don't make me clown you. It's really bad. Trust me. Try it and find out.

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Nice try but neither Nakathila or Martin are from the UK. Gotta tell your own fighters to fight their own battles my friend.

What are you even talking about you clown? Are you drinking or on crack or something? Do you not know how to follow simple questions? I'm making a point with Nakathila and Martin.

Who are these British stars Mexicans go over and beat? Then i asked what the conditions they were under. You know, like advantages like Canelo had over Charlo being 2 weight classes bigger and Charlo being out of the ring for 16 months.

Did you understand that now? Are you able to follow? Would you like me to simplify any further?

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Yeah Dogboe is British LOL. Dude told me that Warrington beat Lopez and Lopez lost to Joet also. I’ve never heard so much mushroom talk

Dogboe isn't British. He's born and raised in Ghana. Haha.

You're a crackhead. No doubt. Thick as mince. You've not said anything based in reality. Not once. Even your reading comprehension is atrocious.

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What a delusional kvnt.

It's already been proven who the delusional c3nt is. I gave you cold hard facts with the evidence from the fight. You ran away and deflected because you know it doesn't benefit you. You're pathetic. And you're in your 60's which makes you an even bigger sad bas3ard. It's clear you're a hypocrite with the way you call Canelo. But when it's a Cuban, you do the same thing.

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I remember now, you live in a bizarro world. You're in the wrong planet, go back and no, you haven't show no proof and haven't found one like you or a website posting thise opinions, it's you delusional brain saying those things. Ge back to your medication. I knew my father, I don't think you have met yours.

I haven't shown proof? You really are as backwards as you show yourself to be. The proof is the full fight on YT. You would be able to show me more punches from the first round from Ramirez and give the time on the clock on the video if i wasn't telling the truth. But look, you're refusing to do so. Evidence doesn't get any better than that. Does it?

I'll leave you now. You're far too ****** for words. Absolute embarrassment. You're like a typical Mexican. A hypocrite to a deranged level. Detached from reality.

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I do agree with you here. Brits are trash. Argentina's, Mexicans and Americans consistently beat them time and time again.

Here's a little something called reality where your absolute delusion is at play.

Bob Fitzsimmons
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Jack "Kid" Berg
Freddie Welsh
Charley White
Owen Moran
Joe Burman
Matt Wells
Jimmy McLarnin
Jimmy Wilde

Look at the win/loss record with these names on Boxrec. We win the vast majority of the time against Americans and Mexicans. Facts show anyone who knows their boxing that. The amount of times we've beaten your greats is eyewatering. Even Turpin beat your greatest in "Sugar" Ray Robinson. This has been going on for well over a century. It won't stop no matter what. You've proven never to be good enough in all this time.

These are a handful of more recent times. There's loads more, but you won't come close to matching this list.

Fury vs Wilder x3.
AJ vs Franklin and Brezeale.
Brook vs Porter.
Taylor vs Prograis and Martin.
Froch vs Taylor and Dirrell.
Hatton vs Malignaggi, Collazo and Phillips.
Lewis vs Holyfield x2, Briggs, Grant, Morrison, Mercer, Tucker, Tyson, Rahman and McCall.
Calzaghe vs Lacy, Hopkins, Jones, Mitchell, Brewer and Sheika.
Khan vs Malignaggi, Collazo, Alexander, Algiera, Peterson (It was a robbery) and Judah.
Hamed vs Johnson and Kelley
Nigel Benn vs Dewitt, Barkley, Williams, McClellan and Sims.

Mexicans...

Taylor vs Ramirez and Vazquez.
Ball vs Vargas.
Hatton vs Castillo and Lazcano.
Wood vs Lara.
AJ vs Ruiz.
Frampton vs Santa Cruz, Garcia, Gonzalez, Avalos, Hirales and Cazarez.
Khan vs Diaz and Molina.
Khal Yafai vs Gonzalez and Carmona.
Gal Yafai vs Calleros and Santomauro.
Hamed vs Medina and Soto.
Ingle vs Medina.
McDonnell vs Ceja
Woods vs Gonzales x2 and Rivera.
Groves vs Sierra.
Degale vs Medina and Periban.
Duke McKenzie vs Herrera, Soto, Gallegos, Ruiz, Flores, Blanco, Canizales, Benavides and Rodriguez.
Sunny Edwards vs Granados, Gallardo and Guarneros.
Monroe vs Terrazas.
Lee Selby vs Montiel and Ramirez.
Liam Smith vs Lozano and Garcia.
Maxi Hughes vs Straffon.
Martin J Ward vs Amparan.
Magri vs Gonzalez, Pacheco, Iglesias, Herrera, Arreola and Torres.
McCullough vs A Zamora, S Ramirez, M Ramirez, O Zamora, Rabanales, Cazares, Cardoz, Bueno, Cardona, Salas,
Winstone vs Guerrero.
Conteh vs Lopez.
Butler vs Montoya Ramirez, Garnica, Molina, Sanchez, Soto, Casares and Garcia Perez.
Mitchell vs Estrada and Lopez.

Understand why i'm laughing now? The only trash fighters are Americans and Mexicans. It's why they're running away from everyone and making sure to get fights when they're horribly inactive because the opponent takes on a shot form. On a level playing field, all you both do is lose. Why else do you think you lose nearly all those fights? The only other option is the corrupt robbery which you both have a mass of. Both of you alone have more than the rest of the world combined if you deduct the other country. Now that's trash. You have only a small handful of legit victories. Most of the world titles you both have are stolen too. Your fighters degrade themselves the same way you do on here. No wonder you keep on producing cowards and frauds. They're a product of their environment.

As for Argentina??? How many wins over us do Argentina have? We win nearly every time out against them. You're living in fantasy land. You can't read and you're getting clowned with facts. You're our b1tch, don't ever forget that.

[garfios]

I haven't shown proof? You really are as backwards as you show yourself to be. The proof is the full fight on YT. You would be able to show me more punches from the first round from Ramirez and give the time on the clock on the video if i wasn't telling the truth. But look, you're refusing to do so. Evidence doesn't get any better than that. Does it?

I'll leave you now. You're far too ****** for words. Absolute embarrassment. You're like a typical Mexican. A hypocrite to a deranged level. Detached from reality.

You saw the fight, you can watch it again in slow motion, highlights, from end to beginning or viceversa, and still you won't believe your eyes. You seeing what you're seeing, it is real to you so I know you are set on that matter. I just ask you to find an expert, one expert that have you same opinion. Nothing. If you think is a robbery and you can't find an expert agreeing with you, is it going to make a difference in how your view the fight? Of course not. I foresee a lot of problems if in real life, your job and personal life, you keep judging things the way you have done with this fight. You shouldn’t mold reality to your way of thinking. Be safe and please move on.