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I think I need to put Delboy out to stud to breed a generation of heavyweights with a good gas tank!LG Motel 22 likes this.
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Dubois folded like a cheap suite, no denying that.
I just don't get why Chisora who was well positioned/ranked in a weak era never bothered to sharpen their tools, perfect their craft etc. Imagine Chisora with basic skills like Dubois, Parker or Charles Martin..
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Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake View Post
Fury is too slow and impotent in the power department, unless you are dead tired ans wobbling like Wilder. Usyk is not going be on the ropes and allow Fury to hang on him. He is going stick and move and Fury knows it
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Originally posted by joe strong View Post
Fury can box in either stance & is 6’9 270 with an 85-86” reach… As great as Usyk is those physical dimensions are going to be hard to overcome. Fury knows how to box long & smother. He will lean on him & go to the body while doing it. It’s not impossible to see a Usyk win but it will be very difficult. I favour Fury 75/25 due to his excellent skillset & size.
You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.
Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.
It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.
Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.
Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.
Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.
Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-01-2023, 06:10 PM.Elpatron2 likes this.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Is Tyson Fury a solid at the weight 270 pounds? No.
You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.
Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.
It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.
Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.
Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.
Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.
Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc. As Larry Merchant used to say “A great big man will always beat a great small man”…
Last edited by joe strong; 09-01-2023, 07:05 PM.
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Chisora talks sheet because Dubois trainer DC trained AJ out of the Olympics and Chisora didn’t want that to happen. He seems to still hold a grudge with DC and this is why he talks negatively about Dubois.
Yes he showed a lot of heart in the ring, but never won a major title. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has a neurological disease as the years go by, because he took plenty of punches because his style exposed his lack of defense. Chisora is a hater and cries like a little beech when he doesn’t get his way. All his talk, what did he accomplish? Being a good opponent for heavyweight fighters. He didn’t accomplish sheet and that’s a fact. Many fighters kicked that ass.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Is Tyson Fury a solid at the weight 270 pounds? No.
You can try your best to convince yourself that Usyk is going to be intimidated by Fury's dimensions 'But really that is just a cliche thing to say'.
Usyk has already fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice, and if people are honest 'Joshua is a more impressive athlete physically than Fury'.
It is not the dimensions of Fury that will challenge Usyk, it is in my opinion Fury's inside game 'Yes Fury is clumsy, and makes unforced errors. But unlike most other Super Heavyweights within this era, Fury actually has a good to satisfactory inside game'.
Usyk has greater endurance, better footwork, movement, speed and he may even have a greater mid to long range game at this stage of his career.
Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but skill for skill when you actually analyse his attribute 'Fury is not really elite in any area'.
Fury is good in many area's, which makes him overall a complete fighter 'When you combine this with his determination and gameness, this is what makes Fury a great fighter'.
Usyk in comparison, has a borderline elite mid to long range game, elite level endurance and footwork. There would be no other way for Usyk to move up from Cruiser weight and win a World Heavyweight title without being elite 'It is Usyk's skill level which is in part negating the potential brute strength and weight differential he is competing against at Heavyweight' etc.
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