Comments Thread For: Team Canelo Will Explore Beterbiev-Smith Winner if Golovkin Loses or Suffers Injury

[aboutfkntime]

Not even close. I’m sorry but I don’t know what planet you live in where a guy any guy who has failed a test in their career belongs in the top ever. You nuke that conversation after a positive test. Applies not just to Canelo, but EVERYONE that has failed a test and before one of you fans decides to debate clenbuterol, it was in his system and I don’t care how or why. Man has more money than god and you are responsible for what’s in your system. Canelo, kovalev, whyte, fury, and the list goes on all gave up the right to be called top anything ever.


oh and I don’t for a second believe the excuses considering how many fighters coming out of the Reynoso camp have also popped dirty since.

then that also applies to ducking a test... so don't ever mention Pacquiao again






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[aboutfkntime]

Canelo isn’t getting past Bivol… if by some chance he does, the beterbiev-smith winner is a more intriguing fight than a GGG rubber match. Shame that the rematch was only feasible after GGG is way past his prime.

if Bivol is even slightly brittle, like many suspect... then he will not see the final bell

that is the question in this fight

Bivol will use his advantages, which are movement/length, and attempt to keep the fight on the outside

Canelo will attempt to slip/counter and break Bivol down at mid-range

Plant/Saunders both had reasonable success with that strategy early, but Canelo eventually got to them and broke them down

Bivol is bigger/longer than Plant and Saunders... but when the inevitable happens during the last half of the fight, will he be tougher ?

that is the question

the main problem for Bivol will be, Canelo is VERY sharp... which is why many opponents become timid/gunshy once Canelo has them timed

I totally disagree with your take on that fight, this will be a BIG test for Bivol






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[aboutfkntime]

Canelo isn’t getting past Bivol… if by some chance he does, the beterbiev-smith winner is a more intriguing fight than a GGG rubber match. Shame that the rematch was only feasible after GGG is way past his prime.

hey bro, do you game ?

if so... what do you play ?






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if Bivol is even slightly brittle, like many suspect... then he will not see the final bell

that is the question in this fight

Bivol will use his advantages, which are movement/length, and attempt to keep the fight on the outside

Canelo will attempt to slip/counter and break Bivol down at mid-range

Plant/Saunders both had reasonable success with that strategy early, but Canelo eventually got to them and broke them down

Bivol is bigger/longer than Plant and Saunders... but when the inevitable happens during the last half of the fight, will he be tougher ?

that is the question

the main problem for Bivol will be, Canelo is VERY sharp... which is why many opponents become timid/gunshy once Canelo has them timed

I totally disagree with your take on that fight, this will be a BIG test for Bivol






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You could be right. Canelo’s head movement is excellent and he’s transformed into a first rate pressure fighter. If not for his head movement, he has more passive tools like parrying and deflecting incoming traffic. To counter that Bivol actually has quite an impressive body jab, which depending on the distance and speed, could leave him susceptible to overhand rights and lead hooks. More likely overhand rights like the one Joe smith landed. Since he’s well schooled and keeps his right hand glued to his chin, timed lead hooks should be nullified. Only way Bivol is getting stopped is if Canelo can consistently close the distance where Bivol has no inside game, but his legs are too good, jab too stiff and punch variety good enough to keep Canelo from throwing caution to the wind. Curious to see the ring size, my guess is that it’ll be tiny.

I believe Bivol is not only more durable than Saunders and Plant but he has underrated power. Dominant performances over Barrera, pascal, and smith are more impressive than anything the former 168 champs have achieved. Since GGG didn’t knock out Canelo, it’s safe to say no one is likely knocking him out. In no way does Canelo hit harder than Smith, and possibly not even as hard as pascal. This is going the distance. Let’s hope the judging is fair and may the best man win.

I wish. Haven’t gamed seriously since undergrad, work, wife and kids equals no time.

[kushking]

Bivol will have to knock him out and they will still have the ammonia on standby It's not like it hasn't happened before. Bottom line, Bivol has had no KOs since 2019 when he ducked Beterbiev and is in with a guy jacked on beef. Since the scorecards are already signed, this is simply another belt-selling contest. I will bet money Bivol will look nothing like he did when he was piecing up MUCH BIGGER MEN, in Barrera and Joe Smith.

Just turn an actual stoppage into a DQ. Think this happen to RJJ also.

If someone gorged themselves on clen meat every day of their lives,it would provide no benefit to a fighter whatsoever(&they wouldn't even notice a difference from reg beef because Clen is like vitamin D except at extremely high dosages that would be picked up by VADA for ages)

[turnedup]

Cant argue the dirty piss. Just sayin 2x undisputed in diff weight classes = HOF for sure and arguably top 10.

theres plenty more that have popped dirty. And thos with TUE's, illegal IVs and the whole Evans Fields patient too.

That’s all fine and dandy. Top ten to me are fighters with zero argument against. Irrefutable top ten, can’t happen with the test.

[turnedup]

then that also applies to ducking a test... so don't ever mention Pacquiao again






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Show me a test Pacquiao failed, same way I don’t mention Floyd’s iv. Neither one failed a test so idgaf. But it’s been how many years and pac been retired maybe it’s time you get off his nuts. You failed a test, as far I’m concerned your boxing resume is just a piece of paper because your legacy and greatness died the moment you popped dirty. If golovkin, Joshua, wilder, or anyone else fails Same applies. hell Roy Jones was my idol growing up, but he has ties to roids and as much I loved Roy his career in my eyes died the moment he got tied to cheating. The difference between me and many of y’all is y’all hate one boxer so much you’ll support cheating mofos to justify your hate of them. Even if a support a boxer, If he fails a test we are done. I’m not a hypocrite can you say the same?

So next time I see you up here supporting another cheating boxer I’m gonna remind you of this conversation.

[ralex]

Why not Murata if he beats GgG?

[Poeticman7]

Why not Murata if he beats GgG?

Because New Years Eve is like Cinco De Mayo over there.
It makes more sense to fight Murata on New Years in Japan to maximize the financial windfall.
Golovkin tried the same thing but Corona though.

[aboutfkntime]

Show me a test Pacquiao failed, same way I don’t mention Floyd’s iv. Neither one failed a test so idgaf. But it’s been how many years and pac been retired maybe it’s time you get off his nuts. You failed a test, as far I’m concerned your boxing resume is just a piece of paper because your legacy and greatness died the moment you popped dirty. If golovkin, Joshua, wilder, or anyone else fails Same applies. hell Roy Jones was my idol growing up, but he has ties to roids and as much I loved Roy his career in my eyes died the moment he got tied to cheating. The difference between me and many of y’all is y’all hate one boxer so much you’ll support cheating mofos to justify your hate of them. Even if a support a boxer, If he fails a test we are done. I’m not a hypocrite can you say the same?

So next time I see you up here supporting another cheating boxer I’m gonna remind you of this conversation.

HE KILLED A SUPER-FIGHT BY REFUSING RANDOM BLOOD TESTS !!



FACT: in the amateurs... if you refuse/obstruct a random blood test, you are...

1) immediately judged guilty of steroid abuse

2) immediately stripped of your title

3) immediately banned from competition



you are totally full-of-shlt... your PED whining is just blatant hypocrisy, otherwise you would hold everyone to the same standard



the three reasons why Canelo was exonerated are...

1) WADA admitted the threshold was too low, and changed it... the amount that Canelo ingested would not trigger a positive result today

(pay attention, the last two are really important)...

2) Canelo DID NOT REFUSE / OBSTRUCT THE TESTING PROCESS... like Pacquiao did

3) Canelo improved for the rematch, despite being testing continually throughout his camp... Pac under-performed, when he was clean

we have discussed 4 actions... 3 point to a sign of innocence, and 1 points to a sign of guilt... it is terribly convenient that despite being so outspoken, you cannot see the difference

gtfoh

like I have said many times... golovkin fans, should never criticize another fighters resume... and pacfans, should STFU about steroids






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